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Why is it "obvious" that you don't have/know the number? My Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, and Yahoo accounts are all much older than that, and long ago I made sure to add multiple access and recovery options.
I hope you regain access. But consider this a learning moment, as opposed to wringing your hands over something you claim is out of your control.
I made the account years ago so obviously I don't have the number or even know what that number is Can you elaborate? How is that obvious?
Enforcing MFA or registering with phone numbers wasn't required on email accounts back in the day.
I know the tinfoilhats won't like this, but it should be a human right to have some kind of guaranteed access to an email account, something where, if you lose access, you can show up at an authority and identify yourself to have access restored. It's absolutely insane that we're at the mercy of the likes of google for what is de-facto a requirement for life. Paying for it at something like proton-mail does not chang…
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Enforcing MFA or registering with phone numbers wasn't required on email accounts back in the day.
Irrelevant. Gengar obviously registered a phone number at some point. It's one thing to ask for help, but another for him to be outraged over something that was and in his control.
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Irrelevant. Gengar obviously registered a phone number at some point. It's one thing to ask for help, but another for him to be outraged over something that was and in his control.
No, you don't understand. Associating a phone number with google didn't used to be a MFA/verification decision, back when the web was more sane. Now, google considers it the most vital form of authentication. So it's completely possible to have added a phone number back when it wasn't used as a security tool, and then google arbitrarily decides to make it a security tool without their consent. That is not the user's…
What about the part about forgetting which number it is? Maybe I'm just biased, having had the same number for the last 15 years? I know I had a few numbers when I was living in other countries and those are still written somewhere but of course no longer accessible or under my control.
Still though.... well I'm on both sides of this lol
I know the tinfoilhats won't like this, but it should be a human right to have some kind of guaranteed access to an email account, something where, if you lose access, you can show up at an authority and identify yourself to have access restored. It's absolutely insane that we're at the mercy of the likes of google for what is de-facto a requirement for life. Paying for it at something like proton-mail does not chang…
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Irrelevant. Gengar obviously registered a phone number at some point. It's one thing to ask for help, but another for him to be outraged over something that was and in his control.
No, you don't understand. Associating a phone number with google didn't used to be a MFA/verification decision, back when the web was more sane. Now, google considers it the most vital form of authentication. So it's completely possible to have added a phone number back when it wasn't used as a security tool, and then google arbitrarily decides to make it a security tool without their consent. That is not the user's…
I had not considered that; thank you.
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No, you don't understand. Associating a phone number with google didn't used to be a MFA/verification decision, back when the web was more sane. Now, google considers it the most vital form of authentication. So it's completely possible to have added a phone number back when it wasn't used as a security tool, and then google arbitrarily decides to make it a security tool without their consent. That is not the user's…
> That is not the user's fault or in their control. What about the part about forgetting which number it is? Maybe I'm just biased, having had the same number for the last 15 years? I know I had a few numbers when I was living in other countries and those are still written somewhere but of course no longer accessible or under my control. Still though.... well I'm on both sides of this lol
I know the tinfoilhats won't like this, but it should be a human right to have some kind of guaranteed access to an email account, something where, if you lose access, you can show up at an authority and identify yourself to have access restored. It's absolutely insane that we're at the mercy of the likes of google for what is de-facto a requirement for life. Paying for it at something like proton-mail does not chang…
And how did email become the defacto verification method. 2FA like TOTP/Security Key should be. It can be used offline and no connections to shady corporations.
hotmail accounts are still accessable by logging in using Outlook, in case you didn't know