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Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#11
"Talented people with a lot of experience have strong opinions."

i hear this often. and i've worked with some people like that, many of whom i admire (in some ways).

yet i am not at all opinionated (as far as i can tell). when people ask me for advice, i often find it very hard to guide them because there are so many options, and what will work best seems to depend so much on non-technical factors.

and i am not sure what to do about this. i have tried being more opinionated, and there are times when a decision affected my work and i have fought for what was right, because i am doing the work. but often other people, opinionating, just seem like noise (worse, sometimes i suspect people confuse being opinionated with understanding something).

no real conclusion here, sorry. sometimes i wonder if people are too opinionated; sometimes i wonder if i am not opinionated enough (or if i am not that talented - although i do take re-assurance from the d-k effect). but that part of the post, and a related comment by the author here, disturbed me a little. i am not sure a place full of opinionated people is that pleasant (or optimal).

i was wondering if this touches a chord with anyone else?

Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#12
I absolutely love the service that we are building. But even more than that, I love the company we are building.

I think this is one of the strong points of GitHub. Everyone I know who has gone to work there has a real love for the company as much as the team. I'm not convinced as many of the many Rubyists heading to, say, LivingSocial (which has an amazing, all star team) feel the same way.

The egalitarian approach clearly has some significant plusses, but a downside IMHO is salary (it has been stated people generally have the same base salary at GitHub - https://github.com/holman/feedback/issues/150). Egalitarian salary structures work for some but also have their downsides.

Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#13

"Talented people with a lot of experience have strong opinions." i hear this often. and i've worked with some people like that, many of whom i admire (in some ways). yet i am not at all opinionated (as far as i can tell). when people ask me for advice, i often find it very hard to guide them because there are so many options, and what will work best seems to depend so much on non-technical factors. and i am not sure…

Everyone's different, and that makes for a great number of different strengths and weaknesses. The biggest problem you run into with opinionated people is that they're frequently more interested in offering their opinion than doing anything about it. On the other hand, that means there's no shortage of constructive criticism when you want it.

In short, opinionated people are just another type of person you have to deal with. If you can't make yourself be as opinionated, that's no big deal. If this is a significant problem for you, perhaps it's best to figure out what skills you have that would complement "opinionation".

Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#14
I wonder if they face the challenge of who has to deal with the less popular things that need to get done. And at what point resentment might kick in. The whole thing seems like it can work until there's one bad apple or one miscommunication.

Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#15

"Talented people with a lot of experience have strong opinions." i hear this often. and i've worked with some people like that, many of whom i admire (in some ways). yet i am not at all opinionated (as far as i can tell). when people ask me for advice, i often find it very hard to guide them because there are so many options, and what will work best seems to depend so much on non-technical factors. and i am not sure…

"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#17

"Talented people with a lot of experience have strong opinions." i hear this often. and i've worked with some people like that, many of whom i admire (in some ways). yet i am not at all opinionated (as far as i can tell). when people ask me for advice, i often find it very hard to guide them because there are so many options, and what will work best seems to depend so much on non-technical factors. and i am not sure…

Having strong opinions is different from having an opinion on everything.

Being in a place full of opinionated people is nice, so long as those people are able to discuss their opinions rationally and are okay with not getting their way every time.

Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#18
I find posts like this disheartening. I'm sure this strategy works great for the upper echelon of developers and quite possibly the vast majority of self-selected readers of this very site. But there are many companies and developers that are way down the bell curve that probably could not survive in this type of environment.

I wish more posts would take into account more factors like sub-optimal talent or office politics.

Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#19
post #16

I wonder how this would shake out in a consulting company?

The difficulty in a consulting company is that (unlike a SaaS company) there is typically a 1:1 ratio between hours worked and money earned.

Our company does many of the same things, but in the end, we're still tied to the billable hour. I talked about it briefly here: http://lincolnloop.com/blog/2012/may/31/lincoln-loop-everyon...

Re: What's it like to work at GitHub?

#20
I think Github is a special case because at Github they are their own customers.

Developer/hackers know what other developer/hackers want because they want it themselves.

It's a great place to be as a developer and as a product company, but I don't think it's attainable everywhere.

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