Sure, buddy corpo, we can trust you.
Adobe Swears It's Not Training Its A.I. On Your Photoshops
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actually those are the words. the actions are they haven't done that. that said, they are completely untrustworthy.
No, they claim they haven't done that. Also the ToS words are legally binding, some "promise" they made as part of a PR reaction is not.
That's not how it works. A company can not just claim things (as part of PR reaction or otherwise) and have it mean nothing legally, just because it isn't part of their ToS.
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#14And I believe them.
Because whenever there is an uproar it makes sense to wait for things to settle down and then start training on your images.
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#15Then they should update their ToS to clearly state that.
1. Update ToS to give yourself expansive new capabilities
2. Publically state that you're not abusing those capabilities (in the present tense of course) to bury the story
3. In a year quietly turn it on in the backend with no public fuss. Preferably in a confusing incremental way so no one step feels too far and nobody with less than superhuman patience can keep track
Microsoft has gone through their version of the path before and will do it again with Recall. In a decade you will technically be able to disable cloud-recall, only on business windows versions, by editing a registry key every 24h.
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#16what is the proof?
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, they claim they haven't done that. Also the ToS words are legally binding, some "promise" they made as part of a PR reaction is not.
That's not how it works. A company can not just claim things (as part of PR reaction or otherwise) and have it mean nothing legally, just because it isn't part of their ToS.
> A company can no just claim things and have it mean nothing legally
They can because that statement isn't binding and it's very interpretable.
> Adobe does NOT train any GenAI models on customer’s content
Today? Right as the tweet was being posted? That he knows of? They train non-GenAI models? Opinions are his own? He's not an authoritative source? It's not "customer content" if you gave them full rights on it?
We have evidence of tweets not counting much in a court, particularly if there are deep pockets behind them. So no, unless it's a legally binding document (and even then I have my doubts, deep pockets run deep) it's literally just words.
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This. Actions speak louder than words and right now the actions are a free license to do whatever they want with your work.
actually those are the words. the actions are they haven't done that. that said, they are completely untrustworthy.
> the actions are they haven't done that
Are you able to prove or at least provide a convincing reason for that statement?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, they claim they haven't done that. Also the ToS words are legally binding, some "promise" they made as part of a PR reaction is not.
That's not how it works. A company can not just claim things (as part of PR reaction or otherwise) and have it mean nothing legally, just because it isn't part of their ToS.
They definitely can and they do, the only question is whether they will get caught or not. Folks at Volkswagen, Enron, Theranos, etc. probably thought they would never get caught.
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#20Then they should update their ToS to clearly state that.
1. Update ToS to give yourself expansive new capabilities 2. Publically state that you're not abusing those capabilities (in the present tense of course) to bury the story 3. In a year quietly turn it on in the backend with no public fuss. Preferably in a confusing incremental way so no one step feels too far and nobody with less than superhuman patience can keep track Microsoft has gone through their version of the…
this is the way of modern public relations that can precisely measure outrage to each story by monitoring social media. If enough people/reputation backlash, rollback, otherwise push forward quietly towards maximum profits