The most ridiculous and offensive thing about this was I got this pop-up while actually using Premiere, and it wouldn’t let me continue using the app until I agreed. Since I was in a rush and only using the free trial anyway, I just agreed, but promptly cancelled my trial after the project was done. I’m going to cancel all of my other Adobe subscriptions as well, and either start using alternatives, or maybe just pirate them out of spite.
Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications
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#12Adobe is a virus. You cannot get rid of it. I have an old payment subscription at them that I cannot cancel even after calling the bank. You can't veen close it from the process list without sacrificing 2 hours.
The thing that annoys me is that banks continue to allow payments even when the card numbers change. I am talking even when the payment method is a card and not bank info.
This happened to me with savethechildren.org before they allowed for easy cancelation. In the past you would have needed to call to cancel.
Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications
#13The most ridiculous and offensive thing about this was I got this pop-up while actually using Premiere, and it wouldn’t let me continue using the app until I agreed. Since I was in a rush and only using the free trial anyway, I just agreed, but promptly cancelled my trial after the project was done. I’m going to cancel all of my other Adobe subscriptions as well, and either start using alternatives, or maybe just pir…
If you're only using Premiere for video editing and not for any After Effects integration, then even the free version of DaVinci Resolve is a great alternative. For a while Resolve's performance and relatively better stability made it a superior choice when Apple first switched to using their own silicon.
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#15This is the price we pay for not supporting open-source alternatives. I love open-source but making a project open-source is a huge endeavor (removing "oh shit" commits, making the project well-structured, etc.) with little gain. Often times, users just nag and complain in the Issues without offering to contribute or opening a PR. And the culture tends to get toxic as soon as the maintainer shows some resistance against some ideas.
And if the maintainer says "aight, I need to pay the bills somehow", everyone gets offended because "that's not open-source" and "how dare you ask us for money". The end result is that companies that pay well attract the best talent, and open-source devs end up being discouraged, with little motivation to improve the software.
Adobe is just one example. I hate them with all my guts, but as long as people are more willing to pay Adobe big chunks of money while hesitating to press the "Buy me a coffee" button of an open-source alternative, I don't see Adobe/etc. change their strategy.
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#16I made a list of alternatives to Adobe software which some people here found helpful: https://untested.sonnet.io/Alternatives+to+Adobe
You may want to edit your list to remove Figma since the Adobe acquisition is no longer happening :)
And perhaps a combination of https://cavalry.scenegroup.co and https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/fusion could be After Effects alternatives. I haven't made the switch yet due to the number of AE plugins I own, but perhaps this most recent Adobe gaffe will do it for me.
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#17Adobe is a virus. You cannot get rid of it. I have an old payment subscription at them that I cannot cancel even after calling the bank. You can't veen close it from the process list without sacrificing 2 hours.
The thing that annoys me is that banks continue to allow payments even when the card numbers change. I am talking even when the payment method is a card and not bank info. This happened to me with savethechildren.org before they allowed for easy cancelation. In the past you would have needed to call to cancel.
https://developer.visa.com/use-cases/identify-merchants-rece...
This is solid as a convenience to the cardholder. When there's fraudulent activity and the card needs to be reissued with a new number, it's not as painful to update all of the subscription services. Most cardholders, most of the time, would prefer the impact to be as minimal as possible when issued a new card number.
Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications
#18Adobe is a virus. You cannot get rid of it. I have an old payment subscription at them that I cannot cancel even after calling the bank. You can't veen close it from the process list without sacrificing 2 hours.
> Adobe is a virus. You cannot get rid of it [...] You can't veen close it from the process list without sacrificing 2 hours.
Yup. Last time I installed an Adobe app on a Mac it refused to install unless I entered an administrator password (and didn't describe why that was necessary), and then made itself persistent so that the Creative Cloud background process restarted whenever I rebooted the computer. Ended up downloading KnockKnock to figure out how it was persisting itself: https://objective-see.org/products/knockknock.html
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#19Adobe's PR re: the response to these changes https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/06/clarification-a...
That might be the change but the problem is 4.2 let me quote in full > Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to…
That's been that way since June 2018 (although it was section 4.3 then), with only minor changes in wording between then and now.
It was also that way since June 2015 except it just said "the Services" instead of "the Services and Software". It may go even farther back but archive.org only has it back to mid 2015.
Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications
#20The most ridiculous and offensive thing about this was I got this pop-up while actually using Premiere, and it wouldn’t let me continue using the app until I agreed. Since I was in a rush and only using the free trial anyway, I just agreed, but promptly cancelled my trial after the project was done. I’m going to cancel all of my other Adobe subscriptions as well, and either start using alternatives, or maybe just pir…
If you're only using Premiere for video editing and not for any After Effects integration, then even the free version of DaVinci Resolve is a great alternative. For a while Resolve's performance and relatively better stability made it a superior choice when Apple first switched to using their own silicon.
I was actually only using Premiere because I needed to work on a project that had been edited in Premiere, otherwise I’d use Avid (which is its own brand of hot garbage but that’s a different story).
Resolve is not bad, but unfortunately it can be a bit overwhelming for a novice editor, and it has some other interesting quirks that can make it a less suitable choice depending on what you’re doing. Still, I would definitely recommend trying it over Premiere at this point.