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Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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This is why open-sourcing everything is the way to go. Hostile takeovers can be combated by forking the code.

It’s a $22 paid app. Of course it’s not going to be open sourced.

I think there are some open source macOS apps that provide code but sell binaries on the App Store, no?

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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This is why open-sourcing everything is the way to go. Hostile takeovers can be combated by forking the code.

It’s a $22 paid app. Of course it’s not going to be open sourced.

I think the point was that open-sourced apps aren't vulnerable to an attack vector like this, which is true. Of course, not everything can be open-sourced, but the poster's point still stands.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Apple really needs to just build this functionality into macOS already. You shouldn't need to pay someone else to shove icons into a drawer.

And on the new MacBooks with a notch through the center of the menu bar, it always seems like the icons on the right and the menus for the focused app on the left are ever encroaching towards that space.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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> Future plans for the app remain unknown, but users have a right to know what’s going on behind the scenes. Do they though? You buy a license for a piece of software, and as far as I understand that doesn't include any fundamental rights involving insight into company policies, direction, business strategy, ... Regardless, this is of course quite a dubious takeover.

This is often a major sticking point in M&A when you find out major contracts are not assignable or transferable depending on terms in those contracts. This can be with customers or vendors. My guess is a consumer app like Bartender isn’t going to have this issue, but just figured I’d share for a lucky 10k scenario.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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> Future plans for the app remain unknown, but users have a right to know what’s going on behind the scenes. Do they though? You buy a license for a piece of software, and as far as I understand that doesn't include any fundamental rights involving insight into company policies, direction, business strategy, ... Regardless, this is of course quite a dubious takeover.

> > Future plans for the app remain unknown

Also, this doesn't seem to be true anymore, the new owners did outline some future plans:

> [...] We've collaborated closely with Ben to understand his vision for Bartender. Our goal is to implement many of the improvements he had planned and address any reported bugs from the past few months to enhance Bartender's performance. [...]

https://old.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/1d7zjv8/comment/l7...

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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I got a new Mac recently, had run Bartender in the past and decided to but the newest version without checking it out first. I was surprised to see the screen recording permission.

This was 12 days ago. I wrote support saying:

> I think screen recording is too much of a privacy and security concern.

> Even if you have no bad intentions, if someone compromises your security, they have access to an app that I've allowed screen recording to.

They replied:

> Bartender 5 isn't actually capturing your screen, this message will show anytime Bartender gets an image of your menu bar items, Bartender only ever gets images of menu bar items, the menu bar, and the desktop wallpaper behind the menu bar.

> That said, we are thinking of a way to isolate the parts of the app that need this particular permission so that way it becomes optional.

I never gave the persmissions to Bartender.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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In case you are already using my BetterTouchTool app: I have created a little tutorial & example preset here on how to use it for status item management: https://community.folivora.ai/t/bartender-controversy-tutori...

You can add feature requests there, it should be pretty simple to extend BTT to support the remaining required features.

I have also recently been approached by shady companies trying to buy my app (I'd never do that) - maybe they are currently targeting apps that require special permissions?

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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I got a new Mac recently, had run Bartender in the past and decided to but the newest version without checking it out first. I was surprised to see the screen recording permission. This was 12 days ago. I wrote support saying: > I think screen recording is too much of a privacy and security concern. > Even if you have no bad intentions, if someone compromises your security, they have access to an app that I've allowe…

This permission request predated the change of ownership of Bartender.
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