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I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Post by bayindirh »

fao_ wrote: post #8

This is one of the kindest "I'm forking xyz" posts I've ever read. The whole thing is some level of heartwarming, and unlike a lot of the other posts in the same range actually makes me consider contributing to either Ladybird or SerenityOS!

Because it's not done because of anger, or anything similar. Instead it's observed that a small project became a big one, and started the cannibalize the bigger project.

So the developer decided to take the growing project to its own space and let the other project thrive, too.

It's done out of love, if nothing else.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Post by trashburger »

nextaccountic wrote: post #5

> Ladybird now targets Linux and macOS. The SerenityOS target is dropped. Why dropping the SerenityOS target?? Does this mean that SerenityOS's Ladybird will need to continually pull patches from the new Ladybird project in order to keep development? Also: is it really a fork if the new project gets to keep the name "Ladybird"? Will SerenityOS's browser need to be renamed, or there will be two diverging Ladybird proj…

> Does this mean that SerenityOS's Ladybird will need to continually pull patches from the new Ladybird project in order to keep development?

It will probably mean that Ladybird becomes a port. As for what happens to the LibWeb that's in SerenityOS right now, that's still undecided.

> Also: is it really a fork if the new project gets to keep the name "Ladybird"? Will SerenityOS's browser need to be renamed, or there will be two diverging Ladybird projects with the same name? (Maybe a qualifier would help, like SerenityOS Ladybird vs Open Ladybird or something?)

SerenityOS' browser will probably go back to being called "Browser", like it was before.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Post by arp242 »

getwiththeprog wrote: post #2

BDFALAISM Beneficial Dictator For As Long As It Suits Me :)

Yes, that is always implied. Even Guido, the original BFDL, stepped down. Linus will probably retire at some point (I hope, considering the alternative would be death before retirement at a relatively young age). Etc.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Post by zadler »

lyu07282 wrote: post #10

Damn I was worried for a second there, fearing some sort of falling out with the community. But this is awesome news! Ladybird is a far more important project to focus on imho.

Given that it dropped serenity as a target, it does seem there is something more to this story…

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Post by 1GZ0 »

Ladybird has garnered a level of mainstream attention that SerenityOS never really managed to.

The browser has the potential to impact many more people, and the project is well funded by large investors.

It makes sense that Andreas would shift his focus to LadyBird at this point.

While Safari is busy being Safari and Firefox is busy eating glue in the corner, I'd love to see LadyBird become a real contender in the browser market.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Post by tete »

user_7832 wrote: post #6

> Ladybird now targets Linux and macOS. The SerenityOS target is dropped. Aww :( I can understand forking the browser from the OS, but I'm a bit sad about this. I hope SerenityOS can have a first-class browser in line with the OS philosophy.

To be fair though. SerentyOS given the size of its user base has a ton of ports already and since even super niche projects like NetBSD can pull off having one of the best (and certainly the most portable) ports collections out there I'd assume that SerentyOS will be able to pull off keeping a browser compatible that was originally made for this OS - if there is interest of course.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Post by bowsamic »

nextaccountic wrote: post #5

> Ladybird now targets Linux and macOS. The SerenityOS target is dropped. Why dropping the SerenityOS target?? Does this mean that SerenityOS's Ladybird will need to continually pull patches from the new Ladybird project in order to keep development? Also: is it really a fork if the new project gets to keep the name "Ladybird"? Will SerenityOS's browser need to be renamed, or there will be two diverging Ladybird proj…

Yeah that's a little bit concerning, honestly. It really sounds more like an abandonment of SerenityOS, rather than a shift in emphasis
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