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Lisp: Icing or Cake?

dthompson.us

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Re: Lisp: Icing or Cake?

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I'm very curious what sort of games were made in elisp. It's not really the first thing that comes to mind when I think about games programming.

It has snake and tetris in the default installation.

I'm surprised no one has joined the two and invented Snake Tetris.

Re: Lisp: Icing or Cake?

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“ We’re not living in a world of Lisp machines, but a world of glorified PDP-11s.” Quite a summary. Btw any icing with sdl I wonder.

Except conventional CPUs aren't really glorified PDP-11s, except in the sense that they're Von Neumann machines with untagged memory; and the conventional CPUs started lapping the Lisp machines around the mid-80s, when 32-bit microprocessors started becoming common and Lisp compiler technology evolved to better support them.

And even the "untagged memory" bit might not hold; with things like CHERI, a LispM style architecture is due for a major comeback.

Re: Lisp: Icing or Cake?

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I'm very curious what sort of games were made in elisp. It's not really the first thing that comes to mind when I think about games programming.

Every copy of GNU Emacs comes bundled with the text adventure Dunnet [0]. Dunnet was originally written by Ron Schnell in 1982, as a Maclisp program running under TOPS-20. [1] In 1992, he ported it to Emacs Lisp; however, the Emacs Lisp version is more than just a simple port of the original, it extends the game with new rooms/items/puzzles, but also removes MIT-centric content–e.g. the "endgame" computer at the end…

I've been an Emacs user for 20+ years and had never stumbled across that game, thanks for highlighting it!

I found the CPU, the Key (guarded by the bear) and made it into the house. Was a fun diversion I guess I need to play it more seriously sometime.

Re: Lisp: Icing or Cake?

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post #12

“ We’re not living in a world of Lisp machines, but a world of glorified PDP-11s.” Quite a summary. Btw any icing with sdl I wonder.

Except conventional CPUs aren't really glorified PDP-11s, except in the sense that they're Von Neumann machines with untagged memory; and the conventional CPUs started lapping the Lisp machines around the mid-80s, when 32-bit microprocessors started becoming common and Lisp compiler technology evolved to better support them. And even the "untagged memory" bit might not hold; with things like CHERI, a LispM style arch…

Hi I think is in the hypothesis (I'm not sure) of that we have edition made by the pdp 11 keyboard developer and tooling that's old and design whiout introspection in mind showcase in this video, the video is really cool but little bit long

https://youtu.be/8Ab3ArE8W3s?si=FdwCbmRnU1gJIXJx

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