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Google Chrome's plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

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Re: Google Chrome's plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

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I use Firefox and have never understood why so many people use a browser made by a for profit company

Firefox is made by a for profit company.

The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit organization.

Re: Google Chrome's plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

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Back to Firefox!

I've been a Firefox user forever (I used Chrome for a while, but switched back to Firefox many years ago), and I am still continually baffled that anyone "in the know" uses Chrome. But they do. And I doubt this change will cause any kind of Chrome exodus, if nothing else Google has done up to this point has triggered that.

Re: Google Chrome's plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

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Hopefully this means people return to FireFox, which I'm surprised many developers abandoned.

I certainly will switch to Firefox (which I already use on my phone) if ad blocking stops working in Chrome. I'm really only on Chrome out of inertia - the developer tools in Firefox is just different enough that I haven't put in enough time to learn my way around it.

Re: Google Chrome's plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

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I just installed uBlock Origin Lite and didn't see any difference between uBlock Origin on the sites I frequent. One thing I like about uBlock Lite is that it defaults to Basic mode which does not require the permission to read and modify data.

uBO Lite:

Filter lists update only when the extension updates (no fetching up to date lists from servers)

Many filters are dropped at conversion time due to MV3's limited filter syntax

No crafting your own filters (thus no element picker) No strict-blocked pages (worse privacy) No per-site switches No dynamic filtering No importing external lists

Source with links: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1067als/comme...

Re: Google Chrome's plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

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post #8

I just installed uBlock Origin Lite and didn't see any difference between uBlock Origin on the sites I frequent. One thing I like about uBlock Lite is that it defaults to Basic mode which does not require the permission to read and modify data.

If you were a Google PM trying to drive ad revenue, wouldn’t it be strategically in your best interest to make it look like uBlock Origin Lite worked equally well until uBlock Origin standard was no longer available and only then start introducing anti-ad blocking mitigations that uBlock Origin Lite couldn’t manage due to MV3 constraints?

Re: Google Chrome's plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

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I just installed uBlock Origin Lite and didn't see any difference between uBlock Origin on the sites I frequent. One thing I like about uBlock Lite is that it defaults to Basic mode which does not require the permission to read and modify data.

uBO Lite: Filter lists update only when the extension updates (no fetching up to date lists from servers) Many filters are dropped at conversion time due to MV3's limited filter syntax No crafting your own filters (thus no element picker) No strict-blocked pages (worse privacy) No per-site switches No dynamic filtering No importing external lists Source with links: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1067a…

The war against dynamic code is so severe (no custom filters, no updates except via published & approved versions). I understand their are dangers, but as much as the ad blocking getting less powerful scares me, the fact that extensions can't do anything dynamic is insane cruel vicious & downright scum shit evil.

Protecting the users at all cost is not a viable way to operate; if web extensions are to actually create user agency, there must be a possibility of evil. I spit up on the dog shit trashfire Google hath created by outlawing all dynamic code. This is a dark despairing turning point, a place where the browser has truly abandoned a core advantage, under pathetic sad Fear Uncertainty and Doubt pretenses & I want this decision to burn forever.

It'll be interesting to see if any of Google's promises about Declarative Net Request filtering being faster prove true. If the new uBO isn't significantly faster, these people will be majorly Emperor with No Clothes-ing themselves.

Re: Google Chrome's plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

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post #14

Back to Firefox!

I've been a Firefox user forever (I used Chrome for a while, but switched back to Firefox many years ago), and I am still continually baffled that anyone "in the know" uses Chrome. But they do. And I doubt this change will cause any kind of Chrome exodus, if nothing else Google has done up to this point has triggered that.

Firefox tagged along after Safari put out an insulting piece trumpeting how much better they were for not implementing a bunch of web APIs. Lacking good links so far but here's this, https://usefulangle.com/web-updates/post/80/firefox-decines-...

It really struck a bad chord for me. Rather than update your permissions model or consider how best to implement, being a browser that simply won't do WebUSB or WebMIDI or half the sensor APIs is an awful thing to me. I know a lot of people don't feel like those add value to them personally, but as someone who likes and believes in the web, the hard-line we're-against-it bandwagon-joining stance was disgusting to see, from a company I had until then trusted & thought was able to navigate complex situations.

Firefox has most of these implemented now. Which is great. As a Linux user, I used to never be able to update most of my consumer devices. But because of WebUSB, a good number now have web updaters, and I also am not scared these companies are installing a bunch of spyware/adware just to update the appliance firmware.

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