Even if it is Migadu or Gmail, unless you run your own email inbox:
It still isn’t yours.
The Case Against Gmail (2020)
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#12Look, it's quite simple: if you want to host your own email, it's entirely feasible.
Not, 'anyone with an RasPi can do it', but definitely 'you can find someone who will host you.'
And yes, the 'powers that be' definitely conspire against this scenario, as they do with federated social media, etc. etc., but that's not a reason to give up!
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#13Losing my gmail would be crippling. I feel existential dread even considering it.
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#14While there's of course risk in SaaS-hosted anything, it's not true that Google is only an "ads company" - they take gsuite/GCP deadly seriously and these products aren't going away.
They take money even more seriously and money is incentive for gradually trading away user privacy.
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#15> We believe, any entity having access to so much personal information is a great risk to world peace, freedom and democracy. I often seen privacy advocates make sweeping statements like this, but I have a hard time understanding their concerns because I haven't really gotten an answer as to how they see it happening. EDIT: Also to be clear, I think it is completely valid to object to data collection on moral / ethic…
"but I can never get an answer as to how exactly they see it playing out."
The standard answer is, that it creates a strong power imbalance. When every politician can be brought down by scandals and one entity is in posession of all the scandals - then they could controll every politician. (it is not like this today, but this is what we privacy advocates want to prevent)
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#16The case against gmail is very simple for me: - I need to own the domain name to make sure mail is sent to my property. - Gmail for is a paid service for custome domain names. - Why would I pay for an advertising service?
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#17The case FOR gmail:
1. it solved spam
2. it solved finding specific emails in the haystack of your years/decades of emails
It's hard to overstate how important 1 is, for anyone who doesn't know how mail was 20 years ago. Google was able to leverage its dominance (in concert with the other huge hosts like Hotmail) to impose significant changes to email infrastructure, by requiring stuff like SPF and DKIM.
Frankly, other email providers are riding on the wave of Google's efforts and impact to sanitize the email space.
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#18How much safer is "owning" your domain?
An anecdote: A few years ago I used to have my own domain. Then one day my credit card expired, the new one did not work and my account got frozen. I fixed it, then I forgot to actually extend the domain and it stopped working. Of course, no incoming email, no access to my old mail, etc.
Fortunately I could buy the domain again after a couple of weeks of time, so it did not end in a catastrophe, but it was truly a very stressful time. I know, it was my fault, but shit like this happens all the time to people.
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#19The case FOR gmail: 1. it solved spam 2. it solved finding specific emails in the haystack of your years/decades of emails It's hard to overstate how important 1 is, for anyone who doesn't know how mail was 20 years ago. Google was able to leverage its dominance (in concert with the other huge hosts like Hotmail) to impose significant changes to email infrastructure, by requiring stuff like SPF and DKIM. Frankly, oth…
Also: more than 5MB storage
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#20Losing my gmail would be crippling. I feel existential dread even considering it.
Do you mean losing access to the archive of past messages stored in your gmail account?
If not, can you explain why it would be crippling to switch to another email service?