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Re: Stop Using Discord

#11
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The rest of the quote: > Stop using Discord for anything else than just chatting. Stop dumping knowledge into a black hole. Use forums. Use the open web. Future nerds will thank you.

Yeah I also hate technical discussions on (legal) hacking and tinkering happening in some obscure Telegram or Discord groups that you only find out if you know a guy who knows a guy who found the Discord link on some Reddit post. WTF?!

I get the need for non-open communication channels if you want to stay away from Nintendo's lawyers or something but otherwise come on, just have the discussions in a more open place FFS.

I also hate Reddit but at least it can be reached via search engines.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#13
Where is the Wordpress.com (i.e. commercial hosting) for forums? I maintain a SMF forum that's lasted since 2000, but I get why most people aren't jumping into creating a new forum, because it's rather tedious compared to Discord. Hell, better ask instead; where is the Discord but for forums (real ones, not Discord)?

Re: Stop Using Discord

#14

Agreed. I also find it to be a terrible ux so I am bias

We (Hyperledger) got a ton of positive feedback from our blind users when we moved to Discord. Apparently the UX is extremely well laid out for screen readers.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#15

Meanwhile... the mastodon page takes over 3 minutes to load. I don't know of any pre-2010 forums that are still functional and searchable.

>I don't know of any pre-2010 forums

https://www.vogons.org/ ->Since 2002

https://bbs.archlinux.org -> Since 2003

And so on, just to name two important ones.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#17
folks have used such communication channels for a long time. there were folks using bbs chat instead of bbs forums, folks using talk instead of mail, there were folks using irc instead of web forums. there's always room for both.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#18
post #13

Where is the Wordpress.com (i.e. commercial hosting) for forums? I maintain a SMF forum that's lasted since 2000, but I get why most people aren't jumping into creating a new forum, because it's rather tedious compared to Discord. Hell, better ask instead; where is the Discord but for forums (real ones, not Discord)?

Isn't that just Reddit?

Re: Stop Using Discord

#19
I totally agree, and also stop using FB groups it's even worse.

But the issue is no replacement is proposed by the author.

Discord has the advantage of:

- being free

- being maintained by someone else

- being used by a lot of people, so no need to create a new account for many users

- being very useful as a chat and growing organically as support from there

I don't see many competitors available. For example discourse is paid 50€ per month for 100 users maximum, which small project can pay that ?

Edit: I rarely see FB mentioned on these debates but it's probably by far the biggest place used for forum. I'm a member of several 10k+ groups. Even discords don't come close of it. The official bambulab group is 60k people, the hiking group of my area (1 million inhabitants max) is 30k people. The numbers are insane, as is the information invisible and lost

Re: Stop Using Discord

#20
Side note: I really dislike how shortsighted many orgs are with the extreme level of "go to your customer" that led to using the persistent IRC client I used to banter during game nights with my friends a decade ago as an all-encompassing support and outreach forum. Forget forum admins. Forget the future. Forget the "open web". It's dysfunctional right now for me, the current target market of whatever product you're selling or program you're running. I'm alienated from whatever your thing or community is by how badly Discord works for over twenty people, so I don't engage with you, and I must imagine many others feel the same way. Surely someone's aware of this in your org? Was the single-digit man-hours saved by not spinning up a FOSS forum or starting a subreddit really worth this? Who made that calculation? /rant
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