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What's Next for Kagi?

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Re: What's Next for Kagi?

#11
I have a single feature i miss from Kagi - optional search history - i sometimes find myself unable to find exactly that article/bloggpost/documentation i found using some search words i don't remember from last week.

Re: What's Next for Kagi?

#12

I have a single feature i miss from Kagi - optional search history - i sometimes find myself unable to find exactly that article/bloggpost/documentation i found using some search words i don't remember from last week.

Would browser history help here?

Re: What's Next for Kagi?

#13
> With Kagi, for the first time in history of search engines, you are the customer and everything is built around you and your needs alone.

There have been several others that attempted this. They didn't succeed. But they're not the first.

I'm using SearXNG myself, which is quite similar to Kagi in that it combines search results from the other big parties (google, bing, brave). It's not quite as configurable (e.g. choosing to omit certain sites from the search results is not possible, but you can tune the relevance of each source search engine) but it serves me well and it's fully self-hosted. It can also easily integrate with more 'grey area' sources like torrent sites which is nice.

I try Kagi once in a while but I'm not yet conviced to pay for it - it is quite expensive by European (Spanish) standards. And I like to keep things under my own control. When I spend money I prefer it to go to hardware, hosting, knowhow etc. I even run an ollama server just so I don't have to use ChatGPT (for most things).

I try Kagi once every few months to see if it's significantly better than my own setup which so far hasn't really been the case. But I wish them well! :)

Re: What's Next for Kagi?

#14
> Kagi Maps, based on Mapbox and OpenStreetMaps.

Extremely exciting. Google Maps has gotten significantly worse in the last couple of years, finally passing the threshold of enshittification by instructing me to turn "at the " instead of just telling me the road name late last year. Search for points of interest has gotten awful, just as bad as Google Search, the Play Store, and the App Store with sponsored content taking over all usable space for basic searches (seriously, I do not want you to prioritise when I search for "diner" or "coffee shop").

If Kagi can prioritise useful search results, trade ads for a monthly subscription, and contribute meaningful data back into OpenStreetMaps as a backend, I would subscribe in an instant. Currently DuckDuckGo is enough to meet my web search needs, but I desperately need a good alternative to Google Maps. Unfortunately Osmand is just not a great interface for most of my needs, and has no Android Auto support, either.

Re: What's Next for Kagi?

#15
I’ve been very happy with Kagi, though I did eventually downgrade from the Ultimate to the regular plan as ChatGPT Plus added more usability features (memory, preprompts, voice conversations, etc). I’ll have to check the article to see if there are hints, but it’d be nice to have more reason for the big price jump going forward than goodwill and the advanced models.

But regular Kagi is one of those “take it out of my cold dead hands” sort of techs. Now that the iOS extension mostly works for bang redirects and such, it’s been a great experience on all platforms.

I have an iOS shortcut built around the Summarizer that has been invaluable for my TL;DR moments on sprawling articles. If I get bored I share to that shortcut and instantly get back bullet points in a popup window. Brilliant.

I’m happy to hear Kagi is successful and will likely be around for awhile. Going back to straight Google or DDG would be rough.

Re: What's Next for Kagi?

#16
post #9

I'm really glad this actually focuses on search and not "AI all the things". I'm definitely rooting for Kagi to succeed and not get bogged down with distractions.

Yeah I'm struggling to recall any other recent instances of companies giving their "AI" (really LLM) ambitions a realistic scope. Hearing "It's useful for some specific things" from Kagi, rather than "it will be in everything and change everything" is ... shockingly refreshing.

Re: What's Next for Kagi?

#18

> With Kagi, for the first time in history of search engines, you are the customer and everything is built around you and your needs alone. There have been several others that attempted this. They didn't succeed. But they're not the first. I'm using SearXNG myself, which is quite similar to Kagi in that it combines search results from the other big parties (google, bing, brave). It's not quite as configurable (e.g. c…

> There have been several others that attempted this.

Interesting, for my information, which companies are you referring to?

Re: What's Next for Kagi?

#19

> Kagi Maps, based on Mapbox and OpenStreetMaps. Extremely exciting. Google Maps has gotten significantly worse in the last couple of years, finally passing the threshold of enshittification by instructing me to turn "at the " instead of just telling me the road name late last year. Search for points of interest has gotten awful, just as bad as Google Search, the Play Store, and the App Store with sponsored content t…

Maps are the weakest part of Kagi right now, and it's a real sore spot for me. Searching for the name of a location often doesn't find it. Searching for addresses often finds a location in a different state (even if I specified the state). It seems to have no idea where I'm at in any way shape or form.

I've been trying to buy a cabin and looking up the addresses has basically meant just switching to Google, unfortunately. I'm really hoping the address lookup gets better, and it learns to search nearby results.

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