I was afraid of this. Now, it's a matter of time before Google search will get even worse as SEO hustlers push more of their useless crap to the top now that internal algorithm data has been published. Guess I should look into that Kagi thing people keep mentioning.
Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
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Do you remember those autogenerated websites that were just giant lists of all words? Those disappeared many years ago, but if you made search ranking random, they'd come right back.
In 2030: Do you remember those websites storytelling about their grand mother just to introduce a mathematical theorem? We’re so lucky they disappeared like the giant lists of all words, because they were 100% fabricated by Google’s unnatural incentives. Google has the ability to change the face of the internet in 2-3 years. They can detect the chaff and shut it down, and I wonder whether it’s an anti-competiton feat…
I did this after simply wanting to know how much powdered sugar to put in whipped cream and getting frustrated at trying to scroll through 3 blogs just to find the ingredient list for something so simple. Eventually I just asked ChatGPT.
I wonder if Google can start running an LLM on websites to judge them on things like that. Hell, looking for a photographer in your area? Have it judge how good the photography is on each website. The possibilities are there but I don’t know if they’ll bother.
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But would be difficult to build a lot of websites which all meet the threshold for specific keywords. The thresholds don't have to be particularly low. In fact it's better if they require a certain amount of work to meet. So maybe only a relatively small number of websites would qualify for a specific niche keyword but the idea is that, among those, they are ranked randomly. You'd probably have to use AI to figure ou…
Why would it be difficult? Just copy paste content to different domains. And done. And for example if google decides to down rank sites that have same content on different domains, well, then you have a nice weapon against your competitors, just copy their sites lot of times and you got your competitor removed from google.
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But would be difficult to build a lot of websites which all meet the threshold for specific keywords. The thresholds don't have to be particularly low. In fact it's better if they require a certain amount of work to meet. So maybe only a relatively small number of websites would qualify for a specific niche keyword but the idea is that, among those, they are ranked randomly. You'd probably have to use AI to figure ou…
Why would it be difficult? Just copy paste content to different domains. And done. And for example if google decides to down rank sites that have same content on different domains, well, then you have a nice weapon against your competitors, just copy their sites lot of times and you got your competitor removed from google.
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#15I was afraid of this. Now, it's a matter of time before Google search will get even worse as SEO hustlers push more of their useless crap to the top now that internal algorithm data has been published. Guess I should look into that Kagi thing people keep mentioning.
It doesn't look like this leak will do that. This doesn't have "algorithms" in any real sense of algorithms.
Still wont change much though, its very hard to game since Google has a lot of ways of mitigating click farms or it would have discovered a long time ago.
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In 2030: Do you remember those websites storytelling about their grand mother just to introduce a mathematical theorem? We’re so lucky they disappeared like the giant lists of all words, because they were 100% fabricated by Google’s unnatural incentives. Google has the ability to change the face of the internet in 2-3 years. They can detect the chaff and shut it down, and I wonder whether it’s an anti-competiton feat…
I asked ChatGPT to tell me how to get away with murder in the style of a recipe blog and it (surprisingly) did a bang-up job: https://chatgpt.com/share/b738b68d-8294-4a2c-87ff-f95a6e2d91... I did this after simply wanting to know how much powdered sugar to put in whipped cream and getting frustrated at trying to scroll through 3 blogs just to find the ingredient list for something so simple. Eventually I just asked C…
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#17I was afraid of this. Now, it's a matter of time before Google search will get even worse as SEO hustlers push more of their useless crap to the top now that internal algorithm data has been published. Guess I should look into that Kagi thing people keep mentioning.
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#18Google should change their algorithm to rank websites randomly; they all show up in search results with equal probability, so long as they exceed a certain threshold of relevance for the user's keywords (the threshold could vary for different keywords but would be made public and there could be instructions on how to meet the threshold requirements so it doesn't have to be a secret and anyone should be able to get th…
Have you considered that it would make it also pretty lame user experience?
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#19I don't know what to say.
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#20Google should change their algorithm to rank websites randomly; they all show up in search results with equal probability, so long as they exceed a certain threshold of relevance for the user's keywords (the threshold could vary for different keywords but would be made public and there could be instructions on how to meet the threshold requirements so it doesn't have to be a secret and anyone should be able to get th…
> That would make it impossible to game. Have you considered that it would make it also pretty lame user experience?