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Ex-OpenAI board member reveals what led to Sam Altman's brief ousting

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Re: Ex-OpenAI board member reveals what led to Sam Altman's brief ousting

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Maybe before saying you are going to align super human intelligence, you should first try to align merely human intelligence.

Lol true and it got me thinking maybe AGI is what will finally align humanity together, whether its because it smart enough to fix the problem or dangerous enough it will require everyone's cooperation to stop it.

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I don't think there's anything new here: https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-running-openais-start... FTA: > "Sam didn't inform the board that he owned the OpenAI startup fund, even though he constantly was claiming to be an independent board member with no financial interest in the company," she said. Previously: > "Jacob Vespers does not exist to our knowledge," Madhav Dutt, a spokesperson for OpenAI, said. When…

Once again he was GP of the startup fund, not an LP. (At least not to my knowledge) Unless there was some sort of carry or other compensation I’d say it’s pretty fair to describe that as not owned. A bit like a trustee wouldn’t claim to own the trust fund. The beneficiaries do

So why did he carefully not say that. To the board, FFS.

A trustee who wasn't playing games would simply say they were the trustee.

Re: Ex-OpenAI board member reveals what led to Sam Altman's brief ousting

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post #11

Maybe before saying you are going to align super human intelligence, you should first try to align merely human intelligence.

Lol true and it got me thinking maybe AGI is what will finally align humanity together, whether its because it smart enough to fix the problem or dangerous enough it will require everyone's cooperation to stop it.

I doubt either will happen. Climate change was dangerous enough that it required everyone’s cooperation to stop it in the 1980s, and here we are still in denial. My only hope for the future is that multiple AGIs are just as dysfunctional as humans are.

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is it just me or is it hard to trust Business Insider at this point...? It seems to show its true colors over and over again as a crappy outlet just trying to survive on clicks in a post-Internet world that has made it pretty unprofitable to do actual deep journalism.

What's with the recent attacks on Business Insider of all publications?

Re: Ex-OpenAI board member reveals what led to Sam Altman's brief ousting

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is it just me or is it hard to trust Business Insider at this point...? It seems to show its true colors over and over again as a crappy outlet just trying to survive on clicks in a post-Internet world that has made it pretty unprofitable to do actual deep journalism.

What's with the recent attacks on Business Insider of all publications?

Possibly clickbaity fluff pieces like this:

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-ai-glue-pizza-i-tried...

Stuff like this really doesn’t serve them well as a “serious” outlet.

I follow the author of the fluff on social and I found the Altman article interesting, but I’m less and less amused with filler pieces and suspect others are too.

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is it just me or is it hard to trust Business Insider at this point...? It seems to show its true colors over and over again as a crappy outlet just trying to survive on clicks in a post-Internet world that has made it pretty unprofitable to do actual deep journalism.

What's with the recent attacks on Business Insider of all publications?

I've been attacking Business Insider for many years. They're effectively a show biz tabloid, but business oriented. They frequently misreport things and write stories that are effectively "clickbait for executives".

Re: Ex-OpenAI board member reveals what led to Sam Altman's brief ousting

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I don't think there's anything new here: https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-running-openais-start... FTA: > "Sam didn't inform the board that he owned the OpenAI startup fund, even though he constantly was claiming to be an independent board member with no financial interest in the company," she said. Previously: > "Jacob Vespers does not exist to our knowledge," Madhav Dutt, a spokesperson for OpenAI, said. When…

Once again he was GP of the startup fund, not an LP. (At least not to my knowledge) Unless there was some sort of carry or other compensation I’d say it’s pretty fair to describe that as not owned. A bit like a trustee wouldn’t claim to own the trust fund. The beneficiaries do

A GP is a partner and as such has an financial interest in the success of the fund. In fact, they have a greater financial exposure than LPs, since they have unlimited liability for the partnership’s obligations (how much upside they have depends on the partnership agreement, its possible that LPs have all of that and a GP that's not also an LP would not — but just having downside exposure is still a serious financial interest.)

Re: Ex-OpenAI board member reveals what led to Sam Altman's brief ousting

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I mean at this point what sama has exposed himself pretty much aligns with what his 'enemies' say about him. Good job at presenting himself otherwise up until 6 months ago I guess.

He has done an impressive job over the past few months in interviews where he says lots of word with zero substance.
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