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US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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> Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press How can that be reconciled with abridging the freedom of speech of millions of citizens by requiring that their preferred press must only controlled by the government's preferred owners?

The first amendment says nothing about ownership of the press.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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post #2

> Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press How can that be reconciled with abridging the freedom of speech of millions of citizens by requiring that their preferred press must only controlled by the government's preferred owners?

> requiring that their preferred press must only controlled by the government's preferred owners?

By “preferred owners” you mean literally anybody not from China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia or Venezuela [1]. Anyone in America, Europe, most of the Americas, most of Asia, and all of Africa. (Oz can come too.)

[1] https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-15/subtitle-A/part-7/subp...

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Foreign propaganda is allowed. (Lamont vs. Postmaster General) https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/lamont-v-postmaster-...

Limits of foreign ownership/approval regimes for broadcast services are a thing, no?

I think broadcast is treated very differently because of the limited number of frequencies.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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> Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press How can that be reconciled with abridging the freedom of speech of millions of citizens by requiring that their preferred press must only controlled by the government's preferred owners?

There are already laws against foreign ownership of media companies.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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> Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press How can that be reconciled with abridging the freedom of speech of millions of citizens by requiring that their preferred press must only controlled by the government's preferred owners?

The "National security" needs of the day trumps the 1st amendment. Only U.S. (and a certain other place which won't be named) propaganda is allowed.

Can we please not? This forum is better than this.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Is September a fast track though? Outside of IT I feel everything is moving at slow motion. Sure they need armies of lawyers but I assume they already hired a lot? Why not a direct ban but requires the army of lawyers to request an appeal? I bet this would send motions faster -- they won't wait for 4 months.

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Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Foreign propaganda is allowed. (Lamont vs. Postmaster General) https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/lamont-v-postmaster-...

Limits of foreign ownership/approval regimes for broadcast services are a thing, no?

Yes, but the law specifically refers to companies that hold a broadcast license. Of course, the law was written in 1934 so they could challenge TikTok based not on the letter of the law but on the spirit of the law. But, case precedence is also not in their favor as they approved a 100% foreign ownership of a media company in 2017.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Is September a fast track though? Outside of IT I feel everything is moving at slow motion. Sure they need armies of lawyers but I assume they already hired a lot? Why not a direct ban but requires the army of lawyers to request an appeal? I bet this would send motions faster -- they won't wait for 4 months.

Because due process.

ALso, the bill doesn't ban Tiktok. It forces Bytedance to sell Tiktok to a US controlled entity so the US security state can more easily threaten them and force them to censor their anti-imperialist content.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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>consider the legal challenges to a new law requiring China-based ByteDance to divest TikTok's U.S. assets by Jan. 19 or face a ban.

This legislation was overwhelmingly bipartisan supported and placed under national security, in an election year, whose court case will happen by Dec. 6 in order to seek review from the Supreme Court if needed before Jan 19th ban. But the election is 1 month prior.

That this most likely will become an election issue where republicans and democrats can 'be on the same page' about and show some unity.

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