Zawinski's Law:
> Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.
I think nowadays we can substitute email with chat/DM.
Bluesky adds direct messages
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#12Not only are they not end-to-end encrypted, Bluesky's DMs seem like they're entirely centralized. From their 2024 roadmap: > We looked closely at alternatives like linking to external services, re-using an existing protocol like Matrix, or rushing out on-protocol encrypted DMs, but ultimately decided to launch a basic centralized system to take the time pressure off our team and make our user community happy. https:/…
I feel for them, because even if they (and weirdos like us on this site) value decentralization and other related values the average customer just DOES NOT CARE. They're trying to compete with other platforms without this handicap and very people people are willing to give them any "credit" for it
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#13Bluesky is going to have the same problem as orkut. While they’re building out, keeping it exclusive and taking their sweet-ass time, something else will come along and eat their lunch. I am saying this as a bitter outsider without a Bluesky account but with FOMO.
Its no longer invite only.
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#14Bluesky is going to have the same problem as orkut. While they’re building out, keeping it exclusive and taking their sweet-ass time, something else will come along and eat their lunch. I am saying this as a bitter outsider without a Bluesky account but with FOMO.
> I am saying this as a bitter outsider without a Bluesky account but with FOMO
You'll be pleased to learn that Bluesky sign-up has been open to all without invitation since last February.
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#15Not only are they not end-to-end encrypted, Bluesky's DMs seem like they're entirely centralized. From their 2024 roadmap: > We looked closely at alternatives like linking to external services, re-using an existing protocol like Matrix, or rushing out on-protocol encrypted DMs, but ultimately decided to launch a basic centralized system to take the time pressure off our team and make our user community happy. https:/…
I feel for them, because even if they (and weirdos like us on this site) value decentralization and other related values the average customer just DOES NOT CARE. They're trying to compete with other platforms without this handicap and very people people are willing to give them any "credit" for it
I thought the entire point of Bluesky was that it was to be decentralized? Did that change?
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#16Zawinski's Law: > Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can. I think nowadays we can substitute email with chat/DM.
Nowadays it's chat, photos/videos, and online purchases thus forming an all-in-one app. Not quite popular here in the West, though that's Elon's eventual goal with X. But think WeChat in China.
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#17It is so far behind Mastodon. Both in terms of features and in terms of communities on there. The people I interact with on BlueSky are nice, and the website is serviceable. But like Pebble / T2, I just don't see the momentum there.
I have up on Mastodon when I had to switch servers because of subs political dispute between admins.
Plus realising that global search was something that many admins were fundamentally opposed to.
Oh and the array of UX issues that made me suspect that many demographics would never adopt it.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel for them, because even if they (and weirdos like us on this site) value decentralization and other related values the average customer just DOES NOT CARE. They're trying to compete with other platforms without this handicap and very people people are willing to give them any "credit" for it
I thought the entire point of Bluesky was that it was to be decentralized? Did that change?
That was the idea with Bluesky, but people refuse to budge from Twitter without DMs integrated into the platform.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel for them, because even if they (and weirdos like us on this site) value decentralization and other related values the average customer just DOES NOT CARE. They're trying to compete with other platforms without this handicap and very people people are willing to give them any "credit" for it
I thought the entire point of Bluesky was that it was to be decentralized? Did that change?
From using Bluesky it feels like the goal is to build a social media experience that’s as decentralized as possible without sacrificing the user experience.
So, they want the experience to be like Twitter for the users that don’t care about decentralization, but to be backed by something like ATProto underneath for those who care.
I’d say Mastodon is more “the entire point is that it’s decentralized”. Bluesky it’s a major point, but not the entire point.
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#20It is so far behind Mastodon. Both in terms of features and in terms of communities on there. The people I interact with on BlueSky are nice, and the website is serviceable. But like Pebble / T2, I just don't see the momentum there.
I have up on Mastodon when I had to switch servers because of subs political dispute between admins. Plus realising that global search was something that many admins were fundamentally opposed to. Oh and the array of UX issues that made me suspect that many demographics would never adopt it.
Decentralized just doesn't work in a centralized cyberspace.
You need to recreate your own centralized cyberspace and then build the underground path to the decentralized canyon.
Then provide a mothership allowing others to dock of their own standards and protocols. Yet allowing them to take off at their own accord with the data of the centralized hub.