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A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by rolph »

hentrep wrote: post #8
John23832 wrote: post #2

They discuss eating bear, just a reminder for everyone that bear meat is a prime harbor for worms and parasites. On top of the fact that, like expressed in the article, it's frankly not good.

Your last sentence is subjective. I grew up eating bear sausage and it was delicious. Perhaps owing to differences in black bear diet/meat vs Alaskan bear. This article seems to corroborate my suspicions: https://www.outdoorlife.com/hunting/bear-meat/

yes your right, the time of year, dictates diet, and general diet influences the meat.

Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by IncreasePosts »

Sounds like they didn't survive the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead, and instead survived in a city or in a provided structure while occasionally heading out into the wilderness and wasting their time producing nothing much of a value.

Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by rolph »

porkloin wrote: post #10
hentrep wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your last sentence is subjective. I grew up eating bear sausage and it was delicious. Perhaps owing to differences in black bear diet/meat vs Alaskan bear. This article seems to corroborate my suspicions: https://www.outdoorlife.com/hunting/bear-meat/

Trichinosis is incredibly common in Alaska's bear population. As with any kind of game meat, thoroughly cooking to recommended temps is highly encouraged. Plenty of people get away with eating undercooked meat for years, but you don't have control over the randomness of what an animal you hunt was exposed to. Trich is no joke and can seriously injure you. https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=disease.muscle2 > A…

yeah, game meat really should be well done, thin cuts that get to temperature all through.

organ products, from game are kinda risky.

Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by alfalfasprout »

John23832 wrote: post #2

They discuss eating bear, just a reminder for everyone that bear meat is a prime harbor for worms and parasites. On top of the fact that, like expressed in the article, it's frankly not good.

Black bear that feeds on mostly berries, etc. during spring is actually quite delicious.

Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by carabiner »

John23832 wrote: post #2

They discuss eating bear, just a reminder for everyone that bear meat is a prime harbor for worms and parasites. On top of the fact that, like expressed in the article, it's frankly not good.

This is NSFL, but there are numerous pictures and videos of bears trailing tape worms from their anus.

Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by thsksbd »

stcredzero wrote: post #7
downrightmike wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the toxins in the food chain end up in the apex predators

> All the toxins in the food chain end up in the apex predators Is there an analogy for media and information?

It's basically the same process, mathematically.

\rant

Each level up increases the concentration of toxin because the n-th level is eating the (n-1) level which has a higher concentration than the (n-2) level that the (n-1) ate.

Similarly, if we posit that all else being equal [1] a sociopath is more likely to go up a hierarchical level, then the nth level is promoted from the n-1 level that is more sociopathic than the n-2.

I also believe that presidential democracies are more prone to this concentration of sociopaths because voting the higher offices is more divorced from the voter (ie you dont know who you are voting for personally and are more easily mislead). Parliamentary (or congressional seats) democracy is more resistant to psychos. Monarchies are immune (except for genetic inheritance), but of course come with their own set of problems.

\rant

[1] a similar assumption is made for toxins.

Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by fxtentacle »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #12

Sounds like they didn't survive the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead, and instead survived in a city or in a provided structure while occasionally heading out into the wilderness and wasting their time producing nothing much of a value.

Sounds like they divorced and then the father died in a car accident while trying to make life in the wilderness work. And the mother moved to the city and never came back, which helped her have a long life with her daughter, so probably that was the better decision.

Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

hentrep wrote: post #8
John23832 wrote: post #2

They discuss eating bear, just a reminder for everyone that bear meat is a prime harbor for worms and parasites. On top of the fact that, like expressed in the article, it's frankly not good.

Your last sentence is subjective. I grew up eating bear sausage and it was delicious. Perhaps owing to differences in black bear diet/meat vs Alaskan bear. This article seems to corroborate my suspicions: https://www.outdoorlife.com/hunting/bear-meat/

> I grew up eating bear sausage and it was delicious.

Isn’t sausage the goto thing when you want to take meat that would otherwise be nasty and turn it into something palatable?

I don’t think you statement contradicts the parent post about bear meat being not good

Re: A New Jersey couple survived the Alaskan wilderness on a homestead

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Post by doodlebugging »

porkloin wrote: post #10
hentrep wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your last sentence is subjective. I grew up eating bear sausage and it was delicious. Perhaps owing to differences in black bear diet/meat vs Alaskan bear. This article seems to corroborate my suspicions: https://www.outdoorlife.com/hunting/bear-meat/

Trichinosis is incredibly common in Alaska's bear population. As with any kind of game meat, thoroughly cooking to recommended temps is highly encouraged. Plenty of people get away with eating undercooked meat for years, but you don't have control over the randomness of what an animal you hunt was exposed to. Trich is no joke and can seriously injure you. https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=disease.muscle2 > A…

Trichinosis can kill you too. I can't find the story link but I read years ago that one of the few German POWs to die in captivity in the US during WWII at Camp Hearne in Texas died from eating undercooked pork which also sickened a couple of other POWs and maybe one of more of the guards.

With that said, pioneers and mountain men ate bear meat. They preferred bear paws due to the high fat content I think.

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