The USA should nationalize the health care industry and all the pharmaceutical companies. Illness should not be a source of profit.
"Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
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Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#12> A study by researchers at Yale estimated that drugs like Wegovy can be profitably manufactured for less than $5 per month. Serious question: Why not just bootleg the stuff? It's a very small protein, easy to make, and "research chemical" companies that sell structurally similar bodybuilding drugs and nootropics are a dime a dozen. Search online for "BPC-157" (a protein drug of only slightly inferior complexity) and…
I'm down for it or something similar. Not even joking.
A. The issue becomes creating a manufacturing and cold chain distribution system involving the fewest people with compartmentalized knowledge. I'm not sure how you'd launder it or keep enough of it a secret to not get eventually busted because someone would open their mouth. It'd probably be busted with RICO if any sort of profits were involved. Must pay taxes, for sure.
B. DIY chems home pharma kit is another approach.
C. Traffic from other countries like France at near cost prices.
D. Send patients to low-cost countries to buy up medications for their own personal use, and post or FedEx it back to themselves in bulk.
E. Hold politicians accountable and make the FDA and FTC set hard limits on price gouging so that Medicare, health insurance co's, and American patients aren't overcharged. You'd think health insurance co's would be right out in front complaining about the high cost of medications and lobbying for change.
Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#13> A study by researchers at Yale estimated that drugs like Wegovy can be profitably manufactured for less than $5 per month. Serious question: Why not just bootleg the stuff? It's a very small protein, easy to make, and "research chemical" companies that sell structurally similar bodybuilding drugs and nootropics are a dime a dozen. Search online for "BPC-157" (a protein drug of only slightly inferior complexity) and…
> I'd argue that there's a moral imperative to bootleg the drug and distribute it to those who would benefit from it at a fair price. Why not do away with patents and IP altogether if the standard is that as soon as someone makes something needed it can be stolen?
Why not make an exception for life-saving patents/inventions?
The irony that, were it not priced outrageously, it could save the health care industry billions as these people with obesity will otherwise require epesneive treatments if the remain obese.
Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#14> A study by researchers at Yale estimated that drugs like Wegovy can be profitably manufactured for less than $5 per month. Serious question: Why not just bootleg the stuff? It's a very small protein, easy to make, and "research chemical" companies that sell structurally similar bodybuilding drugs and nootropics are a dime a dozen. Search online for "BPC-157" (a protein drug of only slightly inferior complexity) and…
Patents?
When it comes to pharmaceuticals, the patents are ridiculous. Take for example Contrave[0]. It is a combination of Naltrexone and Bupropion, both of which are no longer under a patent. Put them both in the same pill and it's under a new patent.
Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#15> A study by researchers at Yale estimated that drugs like Wegovy can be profitably manufactured for less than $5 per month. Serious question: Why not just bootleg the stuff? It's a very small protein, easy to make, and "research chemical" companies that sell structurally similar bodybuilding drugs and nootropics are a dime a dozen. Search online for "BPC-157" (a protein drug of only slightly inferior complexity) and…
> Serious question: Why not just bootleg the stuff?
Historically, the black market for medication has been vanishingly small. People don't as a rule trust drugs they get off of alibaba or wherever; even the viagra gray market is a small fraction of the prescription revenue.
And this doesn't treat something critical, it's a weight loss drug. To be blunt most people would probably choose to remain fat vs. buying an illegal generic.
Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#16The USA should nationalize the health care industry and all the pharmaceutical companies. Illness should not be a source of profit.
I recall when we hiked to to Canada to get the same drugs at a fraction of the price.
No need to pirate, just kick in gear the Great White express.
Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#17> A study by researchers at Yale estimated that drugs like Wegovy can be profitably manufactured for less than $5 per month. Serious question: Why not just bootleg the stuff? It's a very small protein, easy to make, and "research chemical" companies that sell structurally similar bodybuilding drugs and nootropics are a dime a dozen. Search online for "BPC-157" (a protein drug of only slightly inferior complexity) and…
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Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#18> A study by researchers at Yale estimated that drugs like Wegovy can be profitably manufactured for less than $5 per month. Serious question: Why not just bootleg the stuff? It's a very small protein, easy to make, and "research chemical" companies that sell structurally similar bodybuilding drugs and nootropics are a dime a dozen. Search online for "BPC-157" (a protein drug of only slightly inferior complexity) and…
> I'd argue that there's a moral imperative to bootleg the drug and distribute it to those who would benefit from it at a fair price. Why not do away with patents and IP altogether if the standard is that as soon as someone makes something needed it can be stolen?
I'm not sure what the right solution is, but making 160x the manufacturing cost seems a bit obscene. Not sure what the total cost of R&D was, but at that rate of return those R&D costs have to be recovered relatively quickly and then it becomes a pure profit machine.
Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#19> A study by researchers at Yale estimated that drugs like Wegovy can be profitably manufactured for less than $5 per month. Serious question: Why not just bootleg the stuff? It's a very small protein, easy to make, and "research chemical" companies that sell structurally similar bodybuilding drugs and nootropics are a dime a dozen. Search online for "BPC-157" (a protein drug of only slightly inferior complexity) and…
> I'd argue that there's a moral imperative to bootleg the drug and distribute it to those who would benefit from it at a fair price. Why not do away with patents and IP altogether if the standard is that as soon as someone makes something needed it can be stolen?
It's possible to believe that the best system of laws to operate in contains concepts like patents and intellectual property, and that the best thing for you to do individually is to take advantage of poor enforcement. This probably matches the attitudes of most people here about Piracy for example.
Re: "Outrageously" priced weight-loss drugs could bankrupt US health care
#20The USA should nationalize the health care industry and all the pharmaceutical companies. Illness should not be a source of profit.
I recall when we hiked to to Canada to get the same drugs at a fraction of the price. No need to pirate, just kick in gear the Great White express.
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