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Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

#11

Post by thehappypm »

lbotos wrote: post #5
HumblyTossed wrote: post #4

> For a three-bedroom house, say you were looking at installing it in six rooms (each bedroom, a kitchen, living room, and dining room — Quilt doesn’t recommend them in bathrooms) — it could cost close to $40,000. Nobody is going to do this. Not unless they're duped into it.

In NYC to get 3 condensers and 6 internal units PRE-REBATE my top line price was close to $40k. So it doesn't seem far off of what I was quoted 2 years ago?

Plus, you don’t really need six units. My system (Mass) has 5 for a 3 bedroom house. $29k in 2021 prior to rebates.

Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

#12

Post by lsllc »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #4

> For a three-bedroom house, say you were looking at installing it in six rooms (each bedroom, a kitchen, living room, and dining room — Quilt doesn’t recommend them in bathrooms) — it could cost close to $40,000. Nobody is going to do this. Not unless they're duped into it.

You can get a DIY Mr Cool Mini-split (12K BTU) on Amazon for less than $1800.

The whole no-bathroom thing likely won't work well in a cold climate because the pipes in the walls/floor would freeze.

Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

#13

Post by toomuchtodo »

lsllc wrote: post #12
HumblyTossed wrote: post #4

> For a three-bedroom house, say you were looking at installing it in six rooms (each bedroom, a kitchen, living room, and dining room — Quilt doesn’t recommend them in bathrooms) — it could cost close to $40,000. Nobody is going to do this. Not unless they're duped into it.

You can get a DIY Mr Cool Mini-split (12K BTU) on Amazon for less than $1800. The whole no-bathroom thing likely won't work well in a cold climate because the pipes in the walls/floor would freeze.

I cannot recommend Mr Cool enough. Very easy to install if you’re handy, also reliable. I’ve installed dozens of them and they’re all still working flawlessly.

Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

#15

Post by jimbobthrowawy »

ChrisGranger wrote: post #14

Per the Guidelines, "Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." Someone finally made a heat pump that looks good inside your home

I would say that original title is clickbait. Don't know if linkbait is something different.

Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

#16

Post by windexh8er »

thehappypm wrote: post #10
mikestew wrote: post #3

What does this system give you over regular mini-splits? The outdoor unit on the Quilt only does two rooms. Best I can tell, then, for our small 1200 sq/ft house, we'd need a minimum of two outdoor units, probably three. And our house is a shoebox, not the 4000 sq/ft monstrosities that are common in the area. Or for $5000 from Home Depot, I can get a single outdoor unit that will drive four indoor units. On top of th…

indeed, it’s the Aesthetics. Regular mini split heads are huge. They are really visible. It’s a really big turn off to many buyers.

I own a smaller unit for a portion of my home that's not connected to the main HVAC. It isn't huge. It also isn't ugly.

I don't want this. And that's because the goal of these people are to get acquired by Google / Amazon to fit into their crappy "smart home" line of products. I really don't understand how the consumer keeps getting tricked by a bit of marketing into buying products that are sold on design first and performance later. This product, functionally isn't any better than anything on the market yet comes with included obsolescence built in. For reference one of my family members still uses a mini-split system in their cabin that's over 25 years old. This thing is going to be lucky to make it 10 years based on all the additional dependencies it requires straight out of the box.

I hope consumers stop buying these types of products.

Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

#17

Post by thehappypm »

windexh8er wrote: post #16
thehappypm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

indeed, it’s the Aesthetics. Regular mini split heads are huge. They are really visible. It’s a really big turn off to many buyers.

I own a smaller unit for a portion of my home that's not connected to the main HVAC. It isn't huge. It also isn't ugly. I don't want this. And that's because the goal of these people are to get acquired by Google / Amazon to fit into their crappy "smart home" line of products. I really don't understand how the consumer keeps getting tricked by a bit of marketing into buying products that are sold on design first and…

What brand?

Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

#18

Post by windexh8er »

thehappypm wrote: post #17
windexh8er wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own a smaller unit for a portion of my home that's not connected to the main HVAC. It isn't huge. It also isn't ugly. I don't want this. And that's because the goal of these people are to get acquired by Google / Amazon to fit into their crappy "smart home" line of products. I really don't understand how the consumer keeps getting tricked by a bit of marketing into buying products that are sold on design first and…

What brand?

GE Endure [0].

I also own a heat pump for the main house that's part of a duel fuel system (H/P electric & natural gas). I spent less than $200 in natural gas this year based on our mild winter. That system is Carrier Infinity [1].

[0] https://www.geappliances.com/ductless/ [1] https://www.carrier.com/residential/en/us/products/heat-pump...

Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

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Post by iamthemonster »

mikestew wrote: post #3

What does this system give you over regular mini-splits? The outdoor unit on the Quilt only does two rooms. Best I can tell, then, for our small 1200 sq/ft house, we'd need a minimum of two outdoor units, probably three. And our house is a shoebox, not the 4000 sq/ft monstrosities that are common in the area. Or for $5000 from Home Depot, I can get a single outdoor unit that will drive four indoor units. On top of th…

In my old, small, place I went ducted because we didn't have room for splits. Cost AU$10,000 (US$6,600) for the whole house. Moved to a new larger place, got split systems for the whole house. Cost AU$10,000 (US$6,600).

If I had to pay US$6500 per room I'd be bankrupt. DOA, but they'll probably con some credulous investors on the way.

Re: Electric Small Heat Pump

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Post by thehappypm »

windexh8er wrote: post #18
thehappypm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What brand?

GE Endure [0]. I also own a heat pump for the main house that's part of a duel fuel system (H/P electric & natural gas). I spent less than $200 in natural gas this year based on our mild winter. That system is Carrier Infinity [1]. [0] https://www.geappliances.com/ductless/ [1] https://www.carrier.com/residential/en/us/products/heat-pump...

That head looks quite a big larger and more obtrusive. If I really cared about interior aesthetics i’d hate it
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