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Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

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Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

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Post by [deleted] »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #8
scott_w wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a member and this is just saying "it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment. There's no auto-renewal, you get an email telling you your membership is expiring and asks you to pay again. What you've posted implies they're lying and they are verifiably not.

>"it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment How do you pay a single one-time payment at a per month rate? How many months do they charge for the one-time payment? Usually a 'single one-time payment' would be a payment for life. Typically for apps they're What you appear to be describing would be a pre- payment plan at 80¢/mo.

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Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

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Post by reedf1 »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #8
scott_w wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a member and this is just saying "it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment. There's no auto-renewal, you get an email telling you your membership is expiring and asks you to pay again. What you've posted implies they're lying and they are verifiably not.

>"it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment How do you pay a single one-time payment at a per month rate? How many months do they charge for the one-time payment? Usually a 'single one-time payment' would be a payment for life. Typically for apps they're What you appear to be describing would be a pre- payment plan at 80¢/mo.

Literally 5 seconds of investigation revealed that they offer three durations of membership, each a one off payment (the per month pricing is just a representative amortisation). This is actually so easy to discover, and so easy to understand, that I'm guessing you're just reflexively enraged.

Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

#13

Post by rob74 »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #8
scott_w wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a member and this is just saying "it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment. There's no auto-renewal, you get an email telling you your membership is expiring and asks you to pay again. What you've posted implies they're lying and they are verifiably not.

>"it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment How do you pay a single one-time payment at a per month rate? How many months do they charge for the one-time payment? Usually a 'single one-time payment' would be a payment for life. Typically for apps they're What you appear to be describing would be a pre- payment plan at 80¢/mo.

The registration page (https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/register) should answer your questions: basically you can pay for 30 days, one year or two years in advance, and the two year membership translates to 79 cents per month. But I still think they could have phrased it better in the "Become a Pro Member" box...

Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

#14

Post by scott_w »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #8
scott_w wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a member and this is just saying "it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment. There's no auto-renewal, you get an email telling you your membership is expiring and asks you to pay again. What you've posted implies they're lying and they are verifiably not.

>"it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment How do you pay a single one-time payment at a per month rate? How many months do they charge for the one-time payment? Usually a 'single one-time payment' would be a payment for life. Typically for apps they're What you appear to be describing would be a pre- payment plan at 80¢/mo.

I just explained it in my message: you pay once for a year and that's it. This is not a lifetime access, it's a one-off payment that gives you access for 12 months. If you like it, you purchase again.

I really don't understand how this is confusing for you.

Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

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Post by pestatije »

scott_w wrote: post #4
Titan2189 wrote: post #3

"Become a Pro Member" "One-time payment, no auto-renewal" [5 lines further down] "From $ 0.79 / month"

I'm a member and this is just saying "it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment. There's no auto-renewal, you get an email telling you your membership is expiring and asks you to pay again. What you've posted implies they're lying and they are verifiably not.

so when they say "one-time payment", do they mean "one-time payment per year"?, "per decade"?...

Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

#16

Post by scott_w »

pestatije wrote: post #15
scott_w wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a member and this is just saying "it costs $.79 / mo" but you pay in one payment. There's no auto-renewal, you get an email telling you your membership is expiring and asks you to pay again. What you've posted implies they're lying and they are verifiably not.

so when they say "one-time payment", do they mean "one-time payment per year"?, "per decade"?...

No, they say "one-time payment" that gives you access for a year. If you want a second year, you make another one-time payment. There's no recurring payment, it's totally under your control.

Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

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Post by scott_w »

zython wrote: post #6

I wish there was a site that ranks tire grip. Only way to know right now is to see who is rolling faster through the corners than you and word of mouth.

BRR explain why it's difficult. Even testing the grip changes the grip profile (via wear) but they do their best.

It's even more difficult with off-road tyres, as it's not really the rubber compound providing the grip.

Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

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Post by ano-ther »

I appreciate sites like this where they make an effort to systematically review products rather than just giving a superficial impression or repeating PR. https://www.notebookcheck.net/ or https://dpreview.com/ are also good examples.

They are also a testament to the dazzling amount of options that mature industries seem to produce.

> The Schwalbe Racing Ray is optimized for front tire use and is a bit less aggressive than the Schwalbe Rocket Ron, […] Schwalbe suggests pairing the Racing Ray with the Racing Ralph (read review), which is optimized for use on the rear wheel.

> The Racing Ray used to be only available with the Addix SpeedGrip compound, which [is] grippier than their Addix Speed compound. We just noticed Schwalbe also released a Super Race version with the Addix Speed compound somewhere in the last few years, and we're not sure about the front wheel claims for that version.

Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

#19

Post by pestatije »

scott_w wrote: post #16
pestatije wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so when they say "one-time payment", do they mean "one-time payment per year"?, "per decade"?...

No, they say "one-time payment" that gives you access for a year. If you want a second year, you make another one-time payment. There's no recurring payment, it's totally under your control.

ah i love this...i have to say i havent checked that page...one-time payment, to me, means forever...if you have one-time payment per year, you must say so

Re: Bicycle Rolling Resistance: Tire Rolling Resistance Tests and More

#20

Post by ActorNightly »

A super easy way to tell how efficient a tire is going to roll is weight. If you are comparing tires for the same diameter/width/tread pattern, in most cases, the lighter tire is going to roll better.

Tire rolling resistance comes from effectively the rebound damping on the tread. As the tire rolls, the tread on the backside of the contact patch takes some time to rebound, so the tire is effectively always rolling over a bump that is the uncompressed tread the front of the contact patch

The lighter the tire, the less sidewall and puncture material there is, which means that the rebound damping on the tire is going to be less.

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