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Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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Re: Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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Does it matter if said top talent was just watching YT all day at home Their heyday was 2016-2019

That’s the job. There a lot of downtime as a programmer.

You mean for sleep? Yeah, I suppose. But I never had a job programming where there wasn't something valuable to spend my time on

Re: Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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I'm not seeing this at my workplace. People are doing what they are told, and they are returning to the office. Maybe because losing a job is risky right now, given the current job market.

edit: don't get me wrong, I don't want RTO. I'm just saying that I'm personally not seeing people quit over it.

Re: Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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I'm not seeing this at my workplace. People are doing what they are told, and they are returning to the office. Maybe because losing a job is risky right now, given the current job market. edit: don't get me wrong, I don't want RTO. I'm just saying that I'm personally not seeing people quit over it.

I wonder how many of those are actively looking for jobs.

Re: Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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I'm not seeing this at my workplace. People are doing what they are told, and they are returning to the office. Maybe because losing a job is risky right now, given the current job market. edit: don't get me wrong, I don't want RTO. I'm just saying that I'm personally not seeing people quit over it.

I don't know why this was downvoted - i would agree that by and large people are falling in line and daring to speak up less than I've ever seen in 10+ years...

Re: Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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Since there are a lot of founders here, I'm curious about what your positions are whether you have any guides/references to creating a good environment.

My own experience has been that with junior talent, they don't gel with the team and don't have anything in common with the rest of the employees outside of the project they're working on.

Re: Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They wanted to go back to working in an office setting?

They were not ordered to go back to the office? They were ordered not to go back to the office?

Study did not find top talent joined when ordered to go back to the home

Re: Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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Does it matter if said top talent was just watching YT all day at home Their heyday was 2016-2019

I’m kind of curious why people are under the impression that people don’t do this in the office too.

I’ve known people to do full time online masters degrees during office hours. I’ve played a heck of a lot of video games in office. Certainly read a lot of books at the office.

Offices are not some magical “go find work” hypnotic environments.

Re: Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of opportunity cost, the only person losing in that scenario is the employer.

Unless, as some have suggested, it's a deliberate tactic to cheaply reduce headcount. (No need for severance/redundancy payouts if people self-select to leave).

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