Musk used to argue that since humans can drive without Lidar, cars could as well.
Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
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Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
#12Musk used to argue that since humans can drive without Lidar, cars could as well.
As far as I know Musk and Tesla's position on this hasn't changed. They use Lidar for validation during R&D, they don't ship it on production vehicles.
Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
#13How much Lidar does $2 million buy you? Probably, what, a year's worth of Tesla's manufacturing output?
At $1000 a piece which is the rumored price ; is around 2,000 units
if they got a volume discount it would be 4,000 units
Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
#14Tesla R&D budget is $4B.
https://usnewsfile.moomoo.com/public/MM-PersistNewsContentIm...
2M? Hahaha....
>_>
Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
#15In order to make vision-only depth sensing work well, you need ground-truth data. Buying a few thousand lidar to get a ton of ground-truth training data for the NN to learn distance on its own from vision is an obvious move. They're not switching to Lidar. source: i debugged lidar and built localization and behavioral planning algorithms for self driving cars
Yes, 10 years after the initial announcement, Tesla has just now got around to ordering some LIDARs for capturing ground-truth training data. They then went out of their way to get the one LIDAR made to look palatable to end customers instead of the superior industrial ones everyone puts 8 of on their recording cars.
Not very credible.
Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
#16In order to make vision-only depth sensing work well, you need ground-truth data. Buying a few thousand lidar to get a ton of ground-truth training data for the NN to learn distance on its own from vision is an obvious move. They're not switching to Lidar. source: i debugged lidar and built localization and behavioral planning algorithms for self driving cars
And they've been doing this for several years already, with Luminar hardware mounted on engineering vehicles with manufacturer plates.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-y-luminar-lid...
Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
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Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
#18In order to make vision-only depth sensing work well, you need ground-truth data. Buying a few thousand lidar to get a ton of ground-truth training data for the NN to learn distance on its own from vision is an obvious move. They're not switching to Lidar. source: i debugged lidar and built localization and behavioral planning algorithms for self driving cars
Yes, 10 years after the initial announcement, Tesla has just now got around to ordering some LIDARs for capturing ground-truth training data. They then went out of their way to get the one LIDAR made to look palatable to end customers instead of the superior industrial ones everyone puts 8 of on their recording cars. Not very credible.
See sibling comment, this wouldn't be a first time occurance.
Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
#19They might be using them to train robots like Optimus, given Musk's statement.
Also why is the tone of the article so toxic.
Re: Tesla bought over $2M worth of Lidar from Luminar
#20Musk used to argue that since humans can drive without Lidar, cars could as well.
That must clearly be true, but I'd like cars to driver better than humans and make use of all the tech that we can't. Academically vision only is an interesting feat, and as a backup mode for when sensors fail it makes sense to pursue vision only operation, but it seems to me that having more sensors should be superior.