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Google, Meta 'break' Apple's device fingerprinting rules

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Re: Google, Meta 'break' Apple's device fingerprinting rules

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I would believe this - after all how many billions of dollars did Google pay Apple to be the primary search engine on iOS? This further erodes my confidence in Apple doing the right thing and I think the EU is doing the world a service by setting in motion alternative app stores.

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Re: Google, Meta 'break' Apple's device fingerprinting rules

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Well I never! Side note: I wonder how much harm Apple is doing to it's brand with it's Pious Attitude and Arrogant Behaviour? Even as a long time, but relatively small shareholder, I'm on the fence about Apple right now. I cant see the iPhone failing to lay golden eggs anytime soon. But the Apple Vision Pro feels like they took those golden eggs and gold platted a toilet seat. Tim Cook runs a tight shop, but he's bee…

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Devil's advocate: People using Android accept (for whatever reason) a less fluid, subpar UI and UX, while iPhone users are less likely to tolerate it (by nature of not using Android). Thus, using an iPhone could actually suggest a more sophisticated sense of taste i.e. being cooler.

Re: Google, Meta 'break' Apple's device fingerprinting rules

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Original source, buried within the article: https://www.mysk.blog/2024/05/03/apple-required-reason-api/

Yeah, this is much clearer than The Register's attempt to summarize/explain/sensationalize it.

And the meat seems... pretty bland. They caught a bunch of "plausibly fingerprinty"[1] tokens (that a reasonable interpretation of Apple policy would require being stored on the device) being sent unobfuscated in later requests.

That looks a lot more like a genuine mistake by developers than a real attempt to evade tracking controls to me.

[1] But... not very? Seems like they're mostly concerned with system uptime. And, sure, boot time can be a fingerprint, but by definition an ephemeral one. In combination with other techniques, sure, maybe there's a way to construct an user profile. But alone? Meh. And it seems like that's all the investigators found.

Re: Google, Meta 'break' Apple's device fingerprinting rules

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Devil's advocate: People using Android accept (for whatever reason) a less fluid, subpar UI and UX, while iPhone users are less likely to tolerate it (by nature of not using Android). Thus, using an iPhone could actually suggest a more sophisticated sense of taste i.e. being cooler.

Could you give an example for a subpar UX?

Re: Google, Meta 'break' Apple's device fingerprinting rules

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Original source, buried within the article: https://www.mysk.blog/2024/05/03/apple-required-reason-api/

Yeah, this is much clearer than The Register's attempt to summarize/explain/sensationalize it. And the meat seems... pretty bland. They caught a bunch of "plausibly fingerprinty"[1] tokens (that a reasonable interpretation of Apple policy would require being stored on the device) being sent unobfuscated in later requests. That looks a lot more like a genuine mistake by developers than a real attempt to evade tracking…

Uptime can be pretty long on iOS devices, and the developers have no legitimate use for that information.

Re: Google, Meta 'break' Apple's device fingerprinting rules

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Could this be the reason why on iPhones, nearly everything we search for in Google Chrome is advertised to us on Instagram?

Look up "retargeting ads"

Right. This is the most basic level of marketing. Is this not as widely known as I assumed it was?

Re: Google, Meta 'break' Apple's device fingerprinting rules

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Well I never! Side note: I wonder how much harm Apple is doing to it's brand with it's Pious Attitude and Arrogant Behaviour? Even as a long time, but relatively small shareholder, I'm on the fence about Apple right now. I cant see the iPhone failing to lay golden eggs anytime soon. But the Apple Vision Pro feels like they took those golden eggs and gold platted a toilet seat. Tim Cook runs a tight shop, but he's bee…

Interesting to see this downvoted. I've been on Apple for over 15 years and feel exactly the same. The ice is getting a lot thinner and I've been looking at options how to move out of their ecosystem.
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