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Re: Bing shows results that MS asked Google to take down

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Post by myko »

latch wrote: post #7
mikeryan wrote: post #2

You know this is one of those things that sounds terribly hypocritical but in a massive company can easily be just the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Its hard for me to see this as anything more then typical large co bureaucracy.

I'm not following...there aren't 2 parties. There's 1 party, the people sending a take down notice. The question is why aren't they sending the same take down notices to all search engines which have the material in question?

Maybe they have and Bing just prioritizes requests differently?

This is interesting though, when I saw the headline about Microsoft making so many takedown requests to Google I assumed the items to be taken down were found by the Bing team, but it seems that isn't the case.

Re: Bing shows results that MS asked Google to take down

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Post by smackfu »

latch wrote: post #7
mikeryan wrote: post #2

You know this is one of those things that sounds terribly hypocritical but in a massive company can easily be just the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Its hard for me to see this as anything more then typical large co bureaucracy.

I'm not following...there aren't 2 parties. There's 1 party, the people sending a take down notice. The question is why aren't they sending the same take down notices to all search engines which have the material in question?

The 2nd party is the team at the search engine that has to take the link down. Maybe Google processes the notices more efficiently. Or maybe Bing prioritizes non-MS takedowns, because they are at greater risk of suit from them.

Re: Bing shows results that MS asked Google to take down

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Post by jcoder »

Zirro wrote: post #8
jcoder wrote: post #4

Anyone else surprised that the use of "bitch" as a verb is suddenly acceptable journalism?

I don't think TechDirt aims to be "on par" with the traditional newspapers when it comes to "controversial" language ;)

Fuck, I don't give two shits about "controversial" language--but overtly, aggressively sexist language? Fuck that.

Re: Bing shows results that MS asked Google to take down

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Post by kenrikm »

ajross wrote: post #5
mikeryan wrote: post #2

You know this is one of those things that sounds terribly hypocritical but in a massive company can easily be just the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Its hard for me to see this as anything more then typical large co bureaucracy.

My intuition agrees too, this is just a goof. But it's important to note that this isn't merely hypocrisy. By offering useful search results that Google doesn't, Microsoft makes Bing a more attractive search engine. This process certainly could be abused if MS wanted -- XBox and Windows cracks are clearly desired content.

It seems (in this case) that Microsoft makes the best search engine to steal from.. Microsoft. Bravo guys! Well done keep up the good work in Redmond.

Re: Bing shows results that MS asked Google to take down

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Post by ajross »

kenrikm wrote: post #15
ajross wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My intuition agrees too, this is just a goof. But it's important to note that this isn't merely hypocrisy. By offering useful search results that Google doesn't, Microsoft makes Bing a more attractive search engine. This process certainly could be abused if MS wanted -- XBox and Windows cracks are clearly desired content.

It seems (in this case) that Microsoft makes the best search engine to steal from.. Microsoft. Bravo guys! Well done keep up the good work in Redmond.

"Steal?" You drank the koolaid. The fact that they haven't rectified this in their own search engine should be pretty good evidence that copying and piracy are not, in fact, "theft" and that they don't represent lost sales.

Re: Bing shows results that MS asked Google to take down

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Post by Zirro »

jcoder wrote: post #14
Zirro wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think TechDirt aims to be "on par" with the traditional newspapers when it comes to "controversial" language ;)

Fuck, I don't give two shits about "controversial" language--but overtly, aggressively sexist language? Fuck that.

Wait, do you really consider "bitch" or "bitching" in these contexts sexist, nowadays? I've seen it applied to both genders, and, as in this case, a verb. It's moved on from the controversial stage to a common expression.

Re: Bing shows results that MS asked Google to take down

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Post by nextparadigms »

lmm wrote: post #12

Or maybe this company that sent the takedowns, Marketly (not MS, just someone with whom they have a contract), never sent takedowns to Bing. (Why is of course open to speculation; maybe Bing isn't popular enough to be worth the effort)

That still leaves Microsoft in a position where they pay others to send takedown notices to their competitor for the stuff they don't bother to take down themselves. You'd think they'd do that for themselves, too, if they thought those links are so horrible for their own business. My guess is they just want to mess with Google and waste their time on money chasing hundreds of thousands of links a month.

Re: Bing shows results that MS asked Google to take down

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Post by jcoder »

Zirro wrote: post #17
jcoder wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fuck, I don't give two shits about "controversial" language--but overtly, aggressively sexist language? Fuck that.

Wait, do you really consider "bitch" or "bitching" in these contexts sexist, nowadays? I've seen it applied to both genders, and, as in this case, a verb. It's moved on from the controversial stage to a common expression.

No, I don't buy that at all. It's unfortunate that it has moved to the common usage, because it is equivalent to "when you complain you sound like a woman, and that is bad." People should learn to speak respectfully instead of normalizing legitimately offensive language.
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