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FireChat was a tool for revolution, then disappeared

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Re: FireChat was a tool for revolution, then disappeared

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It is endlessly depressing to me that the 'revolutionary' tools that so often catch on aren't free and open source.

they are just failed business with above average marketing budgets. It would have sold to facebook just the same if it took over market as whatsapp did.

Re: FireChat was a tool for revolution, then disappeared

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post #9

Would Briar be a good alternative? https://briarproject.org/ edit: How it works: https://briarproject.org/how-it-works/

TIL Briar does "offline messaging". This is news to me, though I've never used it.

That said, I am curious to hear more about the offline messaging. If it only is able to exchange when the two people who are trying to communicate with eachother are directly nearby it isn't so much a mesh network, right? A mesh network would be able to route across other nodes to get to its destination. Does Briar do that? The "How it works" page doesn't really seem to answer much, so I am assuming not.

Re: FireChat was a tool for revolution, then disappeared

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post #9

Would Briar be a good alternative? https://briarproject.org/ edit: How it works: https://briarproject.org/how-it-works/

It looks like this allows short range communication, but doesn't set up a meshnet. So wouldn't be great for anything more than a couple hundred feet.

Beyond that though, at this point for protests (in the US at least), the suggested opsec is to leave your phone at home.

Re: FireChat was a tool for revolution, then disappeared

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post #5

It is endlessly depressing to me that the 'revolutionary' tools that so often catch on aren't free and open source.

they are just failed business with above average marketing budgets. It would have sold to facebook just the same if it took over market as whatsapp did.

That seems very likely. My point wasn't to say that they were looking to make a revolutionary tool to fight a state, more that it makes me sad that the ones that catch on are rarely open source ones that have existed.

Re: FireChat was a tool for revolution, then disappeared

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post #9

Would Briar be a good alternative? https://briarproject.org/ edit: How it works: https://briarproject.org/how-it-works/

Android only? Ugh

It's annoying, but open source projects tend to prefer more open platforms. I assume that many Briar users use a deGoogled custom ROM instead of the stock Android ROM and a privacy focused app store like F-Droid.

Re: FireChat was a tool for revolution, then disappeared

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

they are just failed business with above average marketing budgets. It would have sold to facebook just the same if it took over market as whatsapp did.

That seems very likely. My point wasn't to say that they were looking to make a revolutionary tool to fight a state, more that it makes me sad that the ones that catch on are rarely open source ones that have existed.

because open source have the worst marketing budget, always. by definition.
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