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California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Re: California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Post by greenavocado »

slg wrote: post #4

And here is the response thread from the state senator that introduced it. https://twitter.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1784964914236227757 Has anyone with less of a bias actually analyzed this bill because I'm not sure if I trust either of these guys after reading these two threads?

Thread succinctly summarized as: "Nothing will happen bro, just trust us." Fucking liar. This is a trojan horse and a power grab. The only thing that matters is the text of the bill, not some bullshit explanations by the authors.

Re: California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Post by zargon »

itslennysfault wrote: post #5

Anybody got any additional context on this? The headline / tiny screenshot really leaves a lot to be desired. What is the bill? what does it do? how does this benefit OpenAI? Does it also benefit other "big players" (Meta, xAI, etc)?

You're likely not seeing the context because you're not logged in. People need to stop using Twitter for this because it's not accessible.

Re: California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Post by unethical_ban »

Burdensome restrictions on AI seem poised to benefit entrenched players and government. On that we agree.

I am terrified of the societal implications of AI to the extent I am plotting out short stories.

The author of the linked tweet seems to think AI can do no harm and there is nothing to worry about. Bad actors can't abuse AI for bioweapons research, or to develop misinformation. And there is no chance that an AI technology could make itself better unassisted.

I'll follow up on their position but it seems naive or disingenuous in the extreme.

Re: California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

The entire notion of “safety” and “ethics” in AI is simply a Trojan horse for injecting government control and censorship over speech and expression. That’s what the governments get out of it. The big AI players like OpenAI, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, etc. are incentivized to go along with it because it helps them through regulatory capture and barriers to competition. They also make some friends with powerful legislators to avoid pesky things like antitrust scrutiny.

Legislation should not restrict the development or operation of fundamental AI technologies. Instead laws should only be built on the specific uses that are deemed illegal, irrespective of AI.

Re: California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Post by Terr_ »

zargon wrote: post #12
itslennysfault wrote: post #5

Anybody got any additional context on this? The headline / tiny screenshot really leaves a lot to be desired. What is the bill? what does it do? how does this benefit OpenAI? Does it also benefit other "big players" (Meta, xAI, etc)?

You're likely not seeing the context because you're not logged in. People need to stop using Twitter for this because it's not accessible.

Especially in cases where the tweet isn't any kind of primary source or analysis, just "OMG Look at this!"

Re: California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Post by Turing_Machine »

Do I hear the sound of GPU farms being packed up in preparation for being moved to another state (or, more likely, the next generation being built in another state)?

Raw compute doesn't care where it occurs. Anywhere with plenty of reliable electric power is fine (which is increasingly not California to begin with).

The people who use the compute power don't even have to live there.

Re: California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Post by bonton89 »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #16

Do I hear the sound of GPU farms being packed up in preparation for being moved to another state (or, more likely, the next generation being built in another state)? Raw compute doesn't care where it occurs. Anywhere with plenty of reliable electric power is fine (which is increasingly not California to begin with). The people who use the compute power don't even have to live there.

With how expensive California electric is I'm not sure why they would be there in the first place honestly.

Re: California Senate bill to crush OpenAI competitors fast tracked for a vote

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Post by uvnq »

slg wrote: post #4

And here is the response thread from the state senator that introduced it. https://twitter.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1784964914236227757 Has anyone with less of a bias actually analyzed this bill because I'm not sure if I trust either of these guys after reading these two threads?

Oh of course its from this guy...
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