While this move is clearly sensible the number of people importing absolute junk from Temu/AliExpress/Shein means millions of homes will be exploitable regardless.
There isn't "millions of people" doing that. Geeks do that. The rest buy locally.
Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
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Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#12While this move is clearly sensible the number of people importing absolute junk from Temu/AliExpress/Shein means millions of homes will be exploitable regardless.
Much of the time the Aliexpress products provide the same functionality for far less than Western brands. Sometimes even a bit more functionality. But I'm still a bit wary of mains-connected ones.
Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#13While this move is clearly sensible the number of people importing absolute junk from Temu/AliExpress/Shein means millions of homes will be exploitable regardless.
Much of the time the Aliexpress products provide the same functionality for far less than Western brands. Sometimes even a bit more functionality. But I'm still a bit wary of mains-connected ones.
At least here we have government agency that mandates recalls on the shoddy stuff bought from local stores. So getting money back is simpler. Even if the quality by amount of recalls is probably not that far...
Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#14We had to recently look at this as we sell our product in the UK. The rules are really quite pissweak. From the article: * that password procedures are more secure, including ensuring any set by the manufacturer are not left blank or using easy-to-guess choices like "12345" or "admin" Reasonable. But that's a _really_ low bar. * that there is clarity around how to report "bugs" or security problems that arise i.e. an…
> that manufacturers and retailers inform customers how long they will receive support, including software updates, for the device they are buying
and importers.
This is the usual requirement in UK law for anything like this (e.g. safety, manufacturing defects). Retailers are responsible for what they sell, and importers are responsible for what they import. If you buy it on credit the credit provider (e.g. a credit card provider) is responsible for a lot of things too (not this AFAIK, but for things like faults in what you bought).
Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#15While this move is clearly sensible the number of people importing absolute junk from Temu/AliExpress/Shein means millions of homes will be exploitable regardless.
There isn't "millions of people" doing that. Geeks do that. The rest buy locally.
Companies like wish.com and amazon.co.uk advertise in mainstream media, and are widely used for buying low-quality goods from China.
Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#16While this move is clearly sensible the number of people importing absolute junk from Temu/AliExpress/Shein means millions of homes will be exploitable regardless.
Much of the time the Aliexpress products provide the same functionality for far less than Western brands. Sometimes even a bit more functionality. But I'm still a bit wary of mains-connected ones.
Likewise. Connecting to the mains is my main red-line on what I've prepared to buy from unknown brands with names that were pulled from a scabble bag.
Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#17While this move is clearly sensible the number of people importing absolute junk from Temu/AliExpress/Shein means millions of homes will be exploitable regardless.
I regularly see the same product on AliExpress and in cheap EU shops. Most Ali things have a CE mark.
Most of my electronics has an FCC mark, even if it means nothing here. (I presume USA inhabitants see CE marks?) Globalization means it's cheaper to make 1 product, compliant with US and EU, then sell it from AliExpress too. This is exactly what the EU is counting on.
Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#18We had to recently look at this as we sell our product in the UK. The rules are really quite pissweak. From the article: * that password procedures are more secure, including ensuring any set by the manufacturer are not left blank or using easy-to-guess choices like "12345" or "admin" Reasonable. But that's a _really_ low bar. * that there is clarity around how to report "bugs" or security problems that arise i.e. an…
> that manufacturers and retailers inform customers how long they will receive support, including software updates, for the device they are buying and importers. This is the usual requirement in UK law for anything like this (e.g. safety, manufacturing defects). Retailers are responsible for what they sell, and importers are responsible for what they import. If you buy it on credit the credit provider (e.g. a credit…
This is what the Brexit contras were warning for. The UK will still have to follow EU law, because they want to sell stuff in the EU. They just lost their voice in the process to write law
Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#19We had to recently look at this as we sell our product in the UK. The rules are really quite pissweak. From the article: * that password procedures are more secure, including ensuring any set by the manufacturer are not left blank or using easy-to-guess choices like "12345" or "admin" Reasonable. But that's a _really_ low bar. * that there is clarity around how to report "bugs" or security problems that arise i.e. an…
> that manufacturers and retailers inform customers how long they will receive support, including software updates, for the device they are buying and importers. This is the usual requirement in UK law for anything like this (e.g. safety, manufacturing defects). Retailers are responsible for what they sell, and importers are responsible for what they import. If you buy it on credit the credit provider (e.g. a credit…
Can you explain the credit thing?
Surely a credit provider is just lending you money?
Money is fungible.
If I have £100 already, and someone lends me an extra £100, and then I buy two things that both cost £100, and one of them is faulty, how do we determine whether the credit provider is responsible?
Re: Tougher rules for sellers of internet-enabled devices in the UK
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
> that manufacturers and retailers inform customers how long they will receive support, including software updates, for the device they are buying and importers. This is the usual requirement in UK law for anything like this (e.g. safety, manufacturing defects). Retailers are responsible for what they sell, and importers are responsible for what they import. If you buy it on credit the credit provider (e.g. a credit…
This is what the Brexit contras were warning for. The UK will still have to follow EU law, because they want to sell stuff in the EU. They just lost their voice in the process to write law
It was 95%* about immigration so none of those arguments mattered
* number pulled from my behind. But it was surely very high