Too bad the aliens stopped visiting so prominently the moment camera phones became ubiquitous.
Same with Ghosts, I guess they're anti social.
Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
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Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#12I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. In particular, this example seems to be explained as follows: > In 2020, Justus completed an extensive study of the high-altitude barium release clouds, concluding that what Carter saw…
A good overview of "state of UAP" right now is: https://www.uap.guide/quotes/introduction
In addition, for fun, here's some other political figures (including some famous ones) and their UFO experiences:
- Democrat presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich admits he saw a UFO during the 2007 debate: https://www.cleveland.com/openers/2007/10/kucinich_at_debate...
- 40th US President Ronald Reagan was initially open about having been part of a group of passengers who witnessed a very fast UFO aboard an aircraft in 1974: https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ronald-r...
- Army Gunner and Canadian parliamentary minister Paul Hellyer said he saw a UFO with his wife and friends: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer#Extraterrestrial_...
- Arizona governor Fife Symington was among witnesses of the Phoenix lights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fife_Symington#Phoenix_Lights
- Kirsan Ilyumzhinov President of Kalmykia and head of World Chess Federation said he was show the inside of a UFO by NHIs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov#UFO_experie...
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#13I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. In particular, this example seems to be explained as follows: > In 2020, Justus completed an extensive study of the high-altitude barium release clouds, concluding that what Carter saw…
> I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. One of the main reasons why the UFO crowd discredits itself is the way that the crazies in the community are overrepresented, and look at "this flying object is not identified" and au…
You're right, and it's funny thinking about it in more abstract terms. Being "unidentified" means we can't match it to any known phenomenon, to then jump to being certain it is aliens is silly.
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. One of the main reasons why the UFO crowd discredits itself is the way that the crazies in the community are overrepresented, and look at "this flying object is not identified" and au…
"We can't be certain what it is, therefore, we are certain it is aliens." You're right, and it's funny thinking about it in more abstract terms. Being "unidentified" means we can't match it to any known phenomenon, to then jump to being certain it is aliens is silly.
Isn't that a definition of discrimination? That seems to be very silly. Haha! :)
Anyway, analysis focuses on "5 unexplainable observables" like : lift without control surfaces, instant acceleration, low observability, hypersonics without signatures, transmedium travel.
For a more serious introduction, see: https://www.uap.guide/
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I keep hearing folks say this in a way that grossly overestimates the capabilities of most modern camera phones. I have to ask, just how clearly does your phone take images of airliners, drones, high-altitude balloons, and satellites? Don't get me wrong, I'm not into claims of extraterrestrial visitations, but I am annoyed by the habits of lazy armchair skeptics, whose snark does more to distance true believers from…
More clearly than not taking a video of it. It'll show a bright dot, but a video will at least show a bright dot zooming unnaturally along the sky.
If you have something like, right-angle change of direction, or high-res details it gets better.
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#16Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#17I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. In particular, this example seems to be explained as follows: > In 2020, Justus completed an extensive study of the high-altitude barium release clouds, concluding that what Carter saw…
> I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. One of the main reasons why the UFO crowd discredits itself is the way that the crazies in the community are overrepresented, and look at "this flying object is not identified" and au…
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#18"... Carter himself later said that, while he had considered the object to be a UFO—on the grounds it was unexplained—his knowledge of physics had meant he had not believed himself to be witnessing an alien spacecraft." Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have tried to photograph an aeroplane and also the moon with my iPhone 12 Max. The image quality is dismal.
You need one of those digital cameras that swap in a pre stored high resolution image of the moon .. they're magic! https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moo...
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#20https://www.theskepticsguide.org/podcasts/episode-105
This was the podcast referenced on the John Oliver show recently, when Oliver talked about Jimmy Carter's UFO incident.
They also had a bit of followup (decades later) on the latest Skeptics Guide episode.
The current thought is that he saw some aircraft from a nearby airbase.