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Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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> users whose account region is set to the US or UK there seems to be a really simple workaround unless I'm missing something. By the way if a website asks me for my date / year of birth it's always 1969 because why the fuck not? specifically 1969-12-31

I appreciate Pixiv letting users set their preferred region and actually respecting that setting, unlike Twitter which ignores the user's "country" setting and do all ad targeting using GeoIP instead.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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post #3

I could see this being really bad for the site. A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter, and if the new terms actively make Pixiv worse for artists in the rest of the world then its importance could decline even further.

Every site I know of in recent memory that has banned adult content, pretty much lost all their users. Not that there aren't a million sites for that kind of content already. They'll just find another site to post their doujins.

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I don’t get the recent moral fight against adult content. Not just in terms of illustrations or graphical novels as described here, but also other recent developments like identity verification laws for porn, or laws against AI-generated content (like deepfakes). We all have imaginations. People fantasize about their partner, or celebrities, or someone they are interested in. It’s normal. It’s just thought and expression. So what is wrong with people sharing their real (pornographic) or fake (digital) version of all this? On deepfakes or generative content, I can see it being misleading or defamatory perhaps, but if it is explicitly marked as content that is not real, is it really a bad thing or a problem? I feel like it’s just someone’s thoughts but in shareable form. What makes it different from artistic expression or satire, really? Isn’t ALL of this just the same old moralistic outrage?

One interesting part of this article is where it mentions the Miller Test, and it links to this page about US laws on obscenity - which to me mostly seem to be violations of constitutional rights on free speech and expression:

https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-ceos/citizens-guid...

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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post #7

> users whose account region is set to the US or UK there seems to be a really simple workaround unless I'm missing something. By the way if a website asks me for my date / year of birth it's always 1969 because why the fuck not? specifically 1969-12-31

It may not be enough in the future. The problem is every little incremental change like “giving in” to block content by region ends up welcoming the next incremental step in that direction. Other countries and regions may now apply the same pressure on Pixiv. Some might call this the slippery slope fallacy but it’s exactly how most political battles play out.

In terms of geographies - one thing I read about recently is how various “online safety czars” from countries are coordinating in groups that may soon have the power to implement global content restrictions (censorship) that respect each other’s local requests on a global scale. See this article:

https://public.substack.com/p/cia-recruit-is-pursuing-global...

> At the World Economic Forum, Inman Grant said she had launched a global censorship body called “the Global Online Safety Regulators Network” to unify governments around censorship “So that we could have a form to help us coordinate, build capacity and do just that.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am friends with some artists who do some NSFW content and they feel they are just being strangled off of the internet at this point Even ones that are just looking for a place to have easy hosting and sharing of images are being pushed off of more and more sites

I’m actually quite optimistic about this! Yes! Push the porn to the “dark web”. Make it a pain in the ass. Ask for ID. Go all out!! …because… this is how we’ll get a free internet again. This is how we’ll get real encrypted networks. This is how we go back to the good internet - except - it’s going to be harder to remove the bad stuff. But this is what they’re doing. Strangling themselves with faux-morality and New P…

The problem is that "the internet" is still a series of connected physical cables and some entities do in fact control those. They can push off people who are using encryption they don't like or serving content they don't like, if push comes to shove

And for the specific people who are trying to make a living through selling smut, payment providers are making their lives hell

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have said for decades that governments can't control Internet content because people will help each other circumvent the restrictions by technical means. I've found that very inspiring and have personally tried to join in. But I notice (maybe especially on this day of the TikTok ban) that lots of people at least sometimes sympathize with the idea that the governments have good reasons to restrict information.…

Yeah, the TikTok ban isn't about restricting content for US users, it's about restricting the data vacuum that is the PRC. TikTok has already been banned for Govmnt employees for years. And, for good reason. Sometimes, we have to remind ourselves that our government is not the bad guy. The bad guys are the bad guys; and those bad guys aren't often bad to their own kind.

It's pretty obvious the tiktok ban was due to the Israel-Palestine conflict and thus is about restricting US users. It literally got passed in the same bill as Israel funding too.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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I don’t get the recent moral fight against adult content. Not just in terms of illustrations or graphical novels as described here, but also other recent developments like identity verification laws for porn, or laws against AI-generated content (like deepfakes). We all have imaginations. People fantasize about their partner, or celebrities, or someone they are interested in. It’s normal. It’s just thought and expres…

There's been wider awareness of how pornography is harmful to boys especially, and also to men. The drive to restrict pornography from children and relegation of pornography to seedier parts of the internet makes complete sense as a response to this.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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post #7

> users whose account region is set to the US or UK there seems to be a really simple workaround unless I'm missing something. By the way if a website asks me for my date / year of birth it's always 1969 because why the fuck not? specifically 1969-12-31

It may not be enough in the future. The problem is every little incremental change like “giving in” to block content by region ends up welcoming the next incremental step in that direction. Other countries and regions may now apply the same pressure on Pixiv. Some might call this the slippery slope fallacy but it’s exactly how most political battles play out. In terms of geographies - one thing I read about recently…

>In terms of geographies - one thing I read about recently is how various “online safety czars” from countries are coordinating in groups that may soon have the power to implement global content restrictions (censorship) that respect each other’s local requests on a global scale.

Thankfully, this dystopian wet dream is unlikely to go far. Censorship "Czars" cannot legally disregard the laws and constitutions of their respective countries. In the US, we have the First Amendment, and no politician or bureaucrat has the authority to censor speech generally.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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post #3

I could see this being really bad for the site. A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter, and if the new terms actively make Pixiv worse for artists in the rest of the world then its importance could decline even further.

> A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter

Citation needed.

Most Japanese illustrators do not care about the US/EU, and many of them even hate gaijins. If you haven't noticed, anti-Americanism is very strong on the Japanese internet.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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post #3

I could see this being really bad for the site. A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter, and if the new terms actively make Pixiv worse for artists in the rest of the world then its importance could decline even further.

I think they'll be fine, the main audience is still Japanese, and for now bypassing this is just a matter of changing an account setting (and Pixiv has required an account for NSFW for as long as I have known of it).
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