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April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

#11
> The web should work without JavaScript.

Says who? Perhaps popular platforms like twitter or instagram should support UX based on texting instead of requiring apps. Perhaps emails should be readable plaintext and without images. I could go on.

I love all of these ideas in theory; but in practice the ship seems to have sailed - and in a different direction.

I guess it's a mixture of primordial enshittification and old people reminiscing about good old days.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

#12
With Javascript disabled the aspect that is a pet peeve isn't some broken functionality of a site (which one would expect) but when a considerable amount of sites add a blank overlay until JS and/or cookies are enabled.

And not the scenario where JS is responsible for loading the content but literally when it's just an arbitrary blank viewport-encompassing element covering the already loaded content—all so the site can then add some animation and remove the overlay when they feel the content should be shown.

It's ridiculous for functionality. When I overhauled a wiki for a project it similarly added such an overlay and I promptly removed it. Nothing on the wiki beside the search was functionally broken without JS yet it required both JS and cookies to be enabled before a user could view anything.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

#13
post #6

Completely disabling JavaScript is a no-go these days. But Firefox+NoScript is both enlightening and refreshing. Did you know that CNN tries to run JavaScript from more than 30 domains on the front page, but is functional and ad-free after enabling 2 or 3? The Add-on allows you to enable or disable specific domains serving JavaScript, and automatically save those preferences for later visits. I find that I only notic…

> Completely disabling JavaScript is a no-go these days

Wrong. I use a browser in a VM when needed, and I don't do that very often, maybe once or twice a day. No ads, fast static text, low cpu, very safe, it's pretty damn good.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

#15
post #5

Next up: CSS naked day? Seriously though, I respect the ideal of using HTML as much as possible for what it's made. But the web is more than just pure content sites. And Javascript provides a lot of nice things as well.

There are certainly web apps that could not function without JavaScript. This initiative is more of a protest to shoving functionally useless JavaScript down your throat when you browse a news site or read an article.

JavaScript should progressively enhance those types of websites, and not be a strict requirement.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

#16
In the same spirit as this initiative and uBlock Origin and NoScript:

> Decentraleyes is a free and open-source browser extension used for local content delivery network (CDN) emulation. Its primary task is to block connections to major CDNs such as Cloudflare and Google (for privacy and anti-tracking purposes) and serve popular web libraries (such as JQuery and AngularJS) locally on the user's machine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentraleyes

https://decentraleyes.org

And a popular fork which may be more up-to-date:

https://www.localcdn.org

And since it can’t hurt and is useful for the advanced usage and modes of uBlock Origin:

The Ultimate Superuser’s Guide to uBlock Origin

https://www.maketecheasier.com/ultimate-ublock-origin-superu...

which I have submitted as its own post here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40105518

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

#17
post #6

Completely disabling JavaScript is a no-go these days. But Firefox+NoScript is both enlightening and refreshing. Did you know that CNN tries to run JavaScript from more than 30 domains on the front page, but is functional and ad-free after enabling 2 or 3? The Add-on allows you to enable or disable specific domains serving JavaScript, and automatically save those preferences for later visits. I find that I only notic…

> Did you know that CNN tries to run JavaScript from more than 30 domains on the front page, but is functional and ad-free after enabling 2 or 3?

Might try https://lite.cnn.com.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

#18
post #13
post #6

Completely disabling JavaScript is a no-go these days. But Firefox+NoScript is both enlightening and refreshing. Did you know that CNN tries to run JavaScript from more than 30 domains on the front page, but is functional and ad-free after enabling 2 or 3? The Add-on allows you to enable or disable specific domains serving JavaScript, and automatically save those preferences for later visits. I find that I only notic…

> Completely disabling JavaScript is a no-go these days Wrong. I use a browser in a VM when needed, and I don't do that very often, maybe once or twice a day. No ads, fast static text, low cpu, very safe, it's pretty damn good.

If you need to dip into another browser once or twice every day, you’ve basically proved that you can’t in fact operate entirely without JavaScript.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

#20
I like the idea of it. Promotes accessibility in cases where bandwidth is limited. Or users have older devices or limited computing power.

I wonder if sites using angular or react will even work without js

edit: while looking this up myself, discovered a design philosophy called: Progressive Enhancement (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement)

If I ever start up my own company. This will be the foundational principle for front end development

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