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VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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Re: VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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This is great but would need to run on windows for the typical mumble use-case of gaming. It would also be great to have this running on ESP32 or similar, so you could make dedicated IP desk intercoms - I envisage a star-trek style intercom, with each button being a channel that you can join by pushing it in (can join multiple simultaneously).

It's so nerd-sad to see Ukrainian Army doing just fine with Discord screen sharing on Windows[1], realistically obsoleting a large bulk of proper intercom solutions. I want to have to have a working RTS KP-32 on my desk!

1: https://i.redd.it/hjcg9hdnqvqa1.jpg

Re: VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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This is REALLY important software nowadays imho.

I'm old enough to have spoken to people on analogue land lines: the sound was crisp, you could hear small background noises, you could hear someone breathe.

Nowadays we usually speak to people on digital lines that are highly compressed (to the extend that is messes with the sound quality), low freq range (no bass, very high sounds) and cut up (without enough sound or when then other party makes more sound the stream is completely interrupted).

And it does not have to be like this! All of this is in favour of the network operator (or centralized chat servers e.g. whatsapp) trying to save some data/money. While many of us have paid for unlimited data!

On top of that much of the conversations are not properly e2e encrypted!

I've used Mumble to speak to people I love over long distance and the quality is just so much better: it's like the analog experience of my childhood. Hearing ever breath, background noise and all in high quality makes all the difference some times.

Re: VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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post #13

This is REALLY important software nowadays imho. I'm old enough to have spoken to people on analogue land lines: the sound was crisp, you could hear small background noises, you could hear someone breathe. Nowadays we usually speak to people on digital lines that are highly compressed (to the extend that is messes with the sound quality), low freq range (no bass, very high sounds) and cut up (without enough sound or…

Cool project anyone reading this may be interested in:

https://github.com/Johni0702/mumble-web

I've never used it but it should make having a p2p conversation through Mumble as easy as pointing your browser to some URL. UX matters (Mumble clients, including mobile apps, are not very user friendly last time i checked: they require some level of skill to use them)

Unmaintained for the last 4 years, sadly.

Re: VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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> users tend to complain about [Mumble's] newer client versions quality and convenience.

I have never heard anyone complain about Mumble's UX. Especially not that it has gotten worse. Or it's resource usage, which is practically unnoticeable on any average system sold past 2005. It's the best-in-class and has only gotten better.

Re: VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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post #13

This is REALLY important software nowadays imho. I'm old enough to have spoken to people on analogue land lines: the sound was crisp, you could hear small background noises, you could hear someone breathe. Nowadays we usually speak to people on digital lines that are highly compressed (to the extend that is messes with the sound quality), low freq range (no bass, very high sounds) and cut up (without enough sound or…

> I'm old enough to have spoken to people on analogue land lines: the sound was crisp

You're old enough to have forgotten what land lines sounded like.

They intentionally dropped frequencies from the audio signal so that they wouldn't have to carry the data contained at those frequencies. This is why nobody ever sounded like themselves over the phone.

Re: VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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post #12
post #3

This is great but would need to run on windows for the typical mumble use-case of gaming. It would also be great to have this running on ESP32 or similar, so you could make dedicated IP desk intercoms - I envisage a star-trek style intercom, with each button being a channel that you can join by pushing it in (can join multiple simultaneously).

It's so nerd-sad to see Ukrainian Army doing just fine with Discord screen sharing on Windows[1], realistically obsoleting a large bulk of proper intercom solutions. I want to have to have a working RTS KP-32 on my desk! 1: https://i.redd.it/hjcg9hdnqvqa1.jpg

I'm more concerned about the winrar in that photo. Someone please tell them about 7z

Re: VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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post #12
post #3

This is great but would need to run on windows for the typical mumble use-case of gaming. It would also be great to have this running on ESP32 or similar, so you could make dedicated IP desk intercoms - I envisage a star-trek style intercom, with each button being a channel that you can join by pushing it in (can join multiple simultaneously).

It's so nerd-sad to see Ukrainian Army doing just fine with Discord screen sharing on Windows[1], realistically obsoleting a large bulk of proper intercom solutions. I want to have to have a working RTS KP-32 on my desk! 1: https://i.redd.it/hjcg9hdnqvqa1.jpg

It's clown world level to see any military using a consumer chat application for sensitive operations, especially one made by a foreign cooperaton. They really don't seem to take opsec seriously even when leaks have already cost lives.

Re: VoRS: Vo(IP) Simple Alternative to Mumble

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Anyone able to find the source code? Can't see it listed anywhere

It's here: http://www.vors.stargrave.org/Install.html

I see the source is in the tar.zst file and there is documentation for uncompressing it.

Only I spent minutes looking for the git repo link... There is none?

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