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Working at Google has been utterly depressing for over a year

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Re: Working at Google has been utterly depressing for over a year

#11

I think this disease is pretty prevalent in tech these days. It has become untenable. I can imagine lots of folks with FU money (presumably folks with the most experience) are considering retiring out of the rat race. I'm not at G but have seriously started to calculate what my number would be (sadly, nowhere close).

>> seriously started to calculate what my number would be

It's about 5 million. You can live on part of the gains and keep rolling over the rest.

Re: Working at Google has been utterly depressing for over a year

#12
I was here for the 2000 bubble and recovery.

It's gonna get worse still. In fact the AI bubble is bad for programers in general. Much like the original dot com rush this one is "capital intensive", just more so.

Working for a FAANG is how they keep the competition to a minimum. Cushy job, support, free shit good pay... then indoctrinate you into that companies "way" and your gonna have a rough time doing a "start up".

Now they dont need to have all the perks, they just need to be better than "Not them" cause you aren't going to raise enough to compete in AI.

I assure you that in 2-4 years when the next interesting market segment picks up that this will all change again.

Re: Working at Google has been utterly depressing for over a year

#13
Similar at Meta. (AWS and Microsoft have always been moderately shitty.) Pennywise pound-foolish tactics lead to a decline of magic and cool some companies once had, now creating and becoming megacorp cliches unnecessarily. Competitive, ostentatious cuts are business theater and herd mentality that undermines the fabric of a company's culture. And maximum uncertainty leads to many times more stress.

Is it as bad at Netflix or Apple? IIRC, Apple maintains more cultural stability than vacillating with the whims of investor pressures hand-wringing about "macro conditions".

Perhaps an inescapable conclusion is that megacorps were always, and always will be, too risky to work for. Us tech people should eschew megacorps and find alternative profitable products/services paths by forming many worker-owned co-ops that replace the functions of a MAANG, and organize into a confederation of loosely-coupled businesses able to compete with them with shared marketing, advertising, distribution, etc. infrastructure.

Re: Working at Google has been utterly depressing for over a year

#14

I think this disease is pretty prevalent in tech these days. It has become untenable. I can imagine lots of folks with FU money (presumably folks with the most experience) are considering retiring out of the rat race. I'm not at G but have seriously started to calculate what my number would be (sadly, nowhere close).

>> seriously started to calculate what my number would be It's about 5 million. You can live on part of the gains and keep rolling over the rest.

Haha .. that is exactly the number I was thinking of. I was mulling whether that includes the house or not. According to the definition of net-worth, of course, a house should be counted. But for the magic retirement number, it doesn't make sense to include the house (just as long as you have shelter that is paid off).

I do have kids and was also starting to think about college costs (or just let them pay it off).

Re: Working at Google has been utterly depressing for over a year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> seriously started to calculate what my number would be It's about 5 million. You can live on part of the gains and keep rolling over the rest.

Haha .. that is exactly the number I was thinking of. I was mulling whether that includes the house or not. According to the definition of net-worth, of course, a house should be counted. But for the magic retirement number, it doesn't make sense to include the house (just as long as you have shelter that is paid off). I do have kids and was also starting to think about college costs (or just let them pay it off).

House first... "get to fuck you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamC7-Pt8N0

Re: Working at Google has been utterly depressing for over a year

#18

I was a contractor for Google from 2017 to 2019. I didn't have really any concerns about working for the company itself, they treated me pretty well, but the employee culture was oppressive. A lot of overpaid, coddled entitlement.

Do elaborate, please.
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