Includes crowdsourced sponsor block as well. The day YouTube goes the Twitch route and starts embedding ads is the day I stop using it. Literally unwatchable at this point without adblocking.
YouTube to start blocking third-party apps that don't show ads
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#12What frustrates me is that the user experience with YouTube premium is still worse than with NewPipe. I have YouTube Premium and I still have NewPipe installed because I don't always want the one-off videos I watch to affect my suggestions. Also NewPipe has the ability to group the channels I watch. The YouTube app defaults to auto-play on, and even after turning it off, sometimes it'll turn back on.
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#13This is all very fixable for Google: stop streaming video for free to clients that don’t have subscriptions. Otherwise, if you send the content to my device for free, it is my right decide which parts to watch and which parts to skip.
Once again, per Jamie Kellner, your contract with the network when you get the show is you're going to watch the spots, otherwise you're stealing programming.
Ads are a gamble, you bet your money that showing me a dumb clip will make me want your product. Guess what, you lost.
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#15What frustrates me is that the user experience with YouTube premium is still worse than with NewPipe. I have YouTube Premium and I still have NewPipe installed because I don't always want the one-off videos I watch to affect my suggestions. Also NewPipe has the ability to group the channels I watch. The YouTube app defaults to auto-play on, and even after turning it off, sometimes it'll turn back on.
I just delete things from watch history if I don't want it recommended. I haven't had auto play turned on for a very long time.
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#16The mouse usually wins.
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#17Can't recommend SmartTube enough: https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube Includes crowdsourced sponsor block as well. The day YouTube goes the Twitch route and starts embedding ads is the day I stop using it. Literally unwatchable at this point without adblocking.
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#18How do they plan on doing this exactly? NewPipe only parses the website and yt-dlp pretends to be Android/iOS. They can't break these in a way that wouldn't be fixable. yt-dlp already ignores the "not available on this app" video ID bait-and-switch trick.
All video is streamed in blocks currently (HLS streaming mostly). So if they really want they would inject adds inside those blocks and the player won't be able to distinguish between ads blocks and video blocks. They can stop sending you blocks if you didn't get all the "ad blocks" beforehand for the duration of the ad. Even if your player "knows" because of a "Sponsor Block" database the interval it needs to skip, by not giving you the blocks beforehand you'd need to wait.
They can also give the stream only to DRM compliant players.
We may end up with some shadow YT libraries with ripped videos. Some distributed crypto hosting platform where the more you seed/rip, the more tokens you get for watching or something like that.
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#19How do they plan on doing this exactly? NewPipe only parses the website and yt-dlp pretends to be Android/iOS. They can't break these in a way that wouldn't be fixable. yt-dlp already ignores the "not available on this app" video ID bait-and-switch trick.
Pretty easy actually. All video is streamed in blocks currently (HLS streaming mostly). So if they really want they would inject adds inside those blocks and the player won't be able to distinguish between ads blocks and video blocks. They can stop sending you blocks if you didn't get all the "ad blocks" beforehand for the duration of the ad. Even if your player "knows" because of a "Sponsor Block" database the inter…
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#20What frustrates me is that the user experience with YouTube premium is still worse than with NewPipe. I have YouTube Premium and I still have NewPipe installed because I don't always want the one-off videos I watch to affect my suggestions. Also NewPipe has the ability to group the channels I watch. The YouTube app defaults to auto-play on, and even after turning it off, sometimes it'll turn back on.
The YouTube app now has incognito mode, which shouldn’t affect your recommendations.