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Re: Brazil Should Terrify You

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matheusmoreira wrote: post #7
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #3

The west is shaking because Brazil is part of the BRICS? Do they want to un-BRICS them? Too big? Let's split? I heard they feel the same about the USA

> Brazil is part of the BRICS I wonder why people include Brazil in that group to this day. Brazil is the only country in that group without a real high tech industry. It's the only one which never developed nuclear weapons or ballistic missiles. It's the only one without a real space program. It's not even got much of an economy these days. Brazil is basically the world's soy farm and natural resources depot.

> Brazil is basically the world's soy farm and natural resources depot.

Russia too though it's more natural gas and oil than farm and they got nukes and a dying space program.

Brazil officially have a space program though it's very modest. And Brazil supposedly was secretly developing nukes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_space_program https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programa_Nuclear_Paralelo

Brazil was included in the BRICs because at the time commodities were booming and Brazil was an important commercial ally. And despite all Brazil still is a top 10 economy with a bigger GDP than Russia.

Re: Brazil Should Terrify You

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Post by matheusmoreira »

lobocinza wrote: post #11
matheusmoreira wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Brazil is part of the BRICS I wonder why people include Brazil in that group to this day. Brazil is the only country in that group without a real high tech industry. It's the only one which never developed nuclear weapons or ballistic missiles. It's the only one without a real space program. It's not even got much of an economy these days. Brazil is basically the world's soy farm and natural resources depot.

> Brazil is basically the world's soy farm and natural resources depot. Russia too though it's more natural gas and oil than farm and they got nukes and a dying space program. Brazil officially have a space program though it's very modest. And Brazil supposedly was secretly developing nukes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_space_program https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programa_Nuclear_Paralelo Brazil was includ…

Reading those pages is just incredibly depressing to me. A GDP top 10 economy, bigger than Russia... And yet such an incredibly anemic technology industry and space program, essentially zero nuclear power and a joke military whose entire purpose is paying out pensions. While the government is churning the corruption machine, India is landing vehicles on the moon and alongside Mexico is set to become the next manufacturing center of the world as corporations move away from China.

This country could be so much more than it is.

Re: Brazil Should Terrify You

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Post by lobocinza »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #12
lobocinza wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Brazil is basically the world's soy farm and natural resources depot. Russia too though it's more natural gas and oil than farm and they got nukes and a dying space program. Brazil officially have a space program though it's very modest. And Brazil supposedly was secretly developing nukes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_space_program https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programa_Nuclear_Paralelo Brazil was includ…

Reading those pages is just incredibly depressing to me. A GDP top 10 economy, bigger than Russia... And yet such an incredibly anemic technology industry and space program, essentially zero nuclear power and a joke military whose entire purpose is paying out pensions. While the government is churning the corruption machine, India is landing vehicles on the moon and alongside Mexico is set to become the next manufact…

> yet such an incredibly anemic technology industry and space program, essentially zero nuclear power and a joke military whose entire purpose is paying out pensions

Brazil was always a rural country with an extractive economy.

The elites don't want a strong military or a strong educated middle class that isn't composed majorly of government employees.

Look at our industrialization policies, which are basically excuses for politicians to:

- take money from the poor and give to their wealthy benefactors;

- protect non-competitive rent-seeking industries which are completely dependant on those policies;

- increase tax revenue (why else tax things for each there's not even an industry like microchips?).

Look at what was done to FEB veterans. The entire division was disbanded throwing all that valuable institutional knowledge in the garbage.

https://gruntsandco.com/snakes-smoking-brazilian-expeditiona...

> essentially zero nuclear power

Supposedly Brazil has the full nuclear supply chain and is partially self-sufficient (lack scale).

https://www.ipen.br/portal_por/portal/interna.php?secao_id=4...

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