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Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

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post #7

What is the use case of a VPN? To hide the IPs of the servers you are visiting from your internet provider? With a VPN, the VPN provider sees those IPs. How is that better? And why would I care that my internet provider sees those IPs in the first place?

I can’t choose my ISP but I can choose my VPN.

The use cases for VPNs include hiding piracy from your ISP, evading IP bans, accessing geoblocked content.

Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

#12
post #10

> No need to install a separate VPN app. Once you sign up for Privacy Pro, you can install our VPN right in your DuckDuckGo browser > we use the open-source WireGuard protocol Any info on how that is implemented? Did they build some plug-in, where a user can enter VPN details/credentials? Asking since I'd love to have something, where I can add my own self-hosted VPN details to have browser only (not the whole machin…

Most likely SOCKS5? At least in Firefox there's builtin UI for configuring it separately from OS. Chromium is more annoying and needs command line flags.

They claim to use wireguard, which might be something a browser extension can start on-demand?

Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

#14
In my experience, personal info removal is a scam. I haven't used DDG specifically, but other services I tried just send you a list of companies you still have to contact yourself.

Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

#15
post #14

In my experience, personal info removal is a scam. I haven't used DDG specifically, but other services I tried just send you a list of companies you still have to contact yourself.

I haven't used it, and only going off what is written, but:

>We scan dozens of these sites for your info and, if found, request its removal, even handling back-and-forth confirmation emails for you automatically behind the scenes.

Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

#16
post #7

What is the use case of a VPN? To hide the IPs of the servers you are visiting from your internet provider? With a VPN, the VPN provider sees those IPs. How is that better? And why would I care that my internet provider sees those IPs in the first place?

There's few use cases outside of placebo. Torrenting without your ISP yelling at you, for one. Getting access to region-locked content, for another. Maybe regional pricing?

You're right that at the end of the day, it's just someone else seeing where you visit. And frankly, I think VPN users would be a higher target of surveillance anyways.

And if the VPN's company is from any 5-9-13-whatever-eyes country, you can assume all that information is being collected by them anyways.

Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

#17
post #10

> No need to install a separate VPN app. Once you sign up for Privacy Pro, you can install our VPN right in your DuckDuckGo browser > we use the open-source WireGuard protocol Any info on how that is implemented? Did they build some plug-in, where a user can enter VPN details/credentials? Asking since I'd love to have something, where I can add my own self-hosted VPN details to have browser only (not the whole machin…

Most likely SOCKS5? At least in Firefox there's builtin UI for configuring it separately from OS. Chromium is more annoying and needs command line flags. They claim to use wireguard, which might be something a browser extension can start on-demand?

> Most likely SOCKS5?

AFAIK, there's still no proper SOCKS user authorization. So if I do something like that on my own VPS, I'll quickly have like 10 000 open connections from Pakistan there.

> At least in Firefox there's builtin UI for configuring it separately from OS

Yes, also extensions like FoxyProxy.

SOCKS4/5 configuration in Firefox is a pure joy. Adding a Putty tunnel there is probably the only simple way to achieve what I described in the comment above.

Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

#18
post #7

What is the use case of a VPN? To hide the IPs of the servers you are visiting from your internet provider? With a VPN, the VPN provider sees those IPs. How is that better? And why would I care that my internet provider sees those IPs in the first place?

There's few use cases outside of placebo. Torrenting without your ISP yelling at you, for one. Getting access to region-locked content, for another. Maybe regional pricing? You're right that at the end of the day, it's just someone else seeing where you visit. And frankly, I think VPN users would be a higher target of surveillance anyways. And if the VPN's company is from any 5-9-13-whatever-eyes country, you can ass…

One use-case you didn't mention is when the user doesn't want ShadyISP to sell their browsing habits (which are conveniently linked to a billing address, name, and more), despite the user understanding that governments could still potentially have access.

>You're right that at the end of the day, it's just someone else seeing where you visit

You write this as if it's some trivial little detail. Who that someone is that is privy to your browsing habits is a significant detail.

Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

#19
post #14

In my experience, personal info removal is a scam. I haven't used DDG specifically, but other services I tried just send you a list of companies you still have to contact yourself.

I've used services included as a credit card benefit that do it automatically. At least, for a modest list of sites.

Re: DuckDuckGo Privacy Pro

#20
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's few use cases outside of placebo. Torrenting without your ISP yelling at you, for one. Getting access to region-locked content, for another. Maybe regional pricing? You're right that at the end of the day, it's just someone else seeing where you visit. And frankly, I think VPN users would be a higher target of surveillance anyways. And if the VPN's company is from any 5-9-13-whatever-eyes country, you can ass…

One use-case you didn't mention is when the user doesn't want ShadyISP to sell their browsing habits (which are conveniently linked to a billing address, name, and more), despite the user understanding that governments could still potentially have access. > You're right that at the end of the day, it's just someone else seeing where you visit You write this as if it's some trivial little detail. Who that someone is t…

That's fair. Governments may get it either way, but I doubt they bother to sell the data - and a paid-for VPN obviously wouldn't want to sell it, assuming they're worried about getting caught and losing customers.
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