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Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by Arathorn »

pgeorgi wrote: post #10
komali2 wrote: post #4

I'm really curious how this person got codeberg pages working, I still haven't managed to get a codeberg page deployed. I thought it required a 3rd party server, like their actions seem to. Also: > It's easy to pick a proprietary network like Telegram or an unsustainable one like Matrix, What's unsustainable about Matrix? I've really enjoyed running our community on Matrix.

Matrix only recently started adopting an (as of now) experimental protocol that allows purging older parts of the append-only data set that constitutes a channel.

What are you thinking of here? Synapse has supported purging room history since 2016: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/911, and configurable data retention since 2019: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/5815.

Meanwhile, Matrix has never needed the full room history to be synchronised - when a server joins a room, it typically only grabs the last 20 messages (with other history pulled in demand when the client scrolls up). (It does needs to grab all the key-value state about the room, although these days that happens gradually in the background).

If you're wondering why Matrix implementations are often greedy on disk space, it's because they typically cache the key-value state aggressively (storing a snapshot of it for the room on a regular basis). However, that's just an implementation quirk; folks could absolutely come up with fancier datastructures to store it more efficiently; it's just not got to the top of anyone's todo list yet - things like performance and UX are considered much more important than disk usage right now.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by wcedmisten »

globular-toast wrote: post #2

This is a great effort. People just doing something good for the community. No expectation of reward or seeking rent on the output. Just doing the right thing. Compare with Google who use their monopoly position to keep amassing data which they keep for themselves. Imagine all the effort that's gone into working for Google for free that could have been put into OSM. If you work on tools for allowing people to do that…

I'm mostly an "armchair mapper", but I actually find adding details from satellite imagery to be really fun. It's kind of like a nerdy version of paint-by-number.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by ikesau »

pietervdvn wrote: post #12

Shameless plug for my project where one can easily see data from and add data to OpenStreetMap: https://MapComplete.org

Similarly, as recommended in the article, StreetComplete[1], which shows incomplete areas on your map and marks them as quests to add to :)

Also recommended, Organic Maps[2], which is an OSM client that's good enough to use as my main map app (in my city, at least)

Final recommendation, this interview[3] with the founder of OpenStreetMap Steve Coast. 3 hours of fascinating insight into the history and future of the project, including how he doesn't think OSM will be relevant for much longer once someone manages to develop a mapping project into their self-driving cars

[1] https://streetcomplete.app/?lang=en [2] https://organicmaps.app/ [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9NxbnE1i0

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by jraph »

pietervdvn wrote: post #12

Shameless plug for my project where one can easily see data from and add data to OpenStreetMap: https://MapComplete.org

Seems quite good, how come I have not run into it yet?

Even for someone who just want a quick feature look up it seems pretty useful.

Search has two "magnifying glass" buttons, and could probably use a suggestion popup.

A nice showcase of Svelte too, the thing is refreshingly light and fast.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by taude »

david-gpu wrote: post #8

OpenStreetMap is great and I only wish more people using apps like Strava, RideWithGPS, Komoot or OSMAnd realized that they can contribute, benefitting everybody else using those apps. In Toronto I only see a very small number of people contributing to OSM's cycling infrastructure, which results in the map not as up-to-date, which in turn means that the aforementioned apps will not propose routes through the nicest,…

If i'm using ridewithgps, how do I contribute? is there an easy tool, or maybe it's something these tools could integrate? I know I ride trails thatdon't always show up on OSM views.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by [deleted] »

ikesau wrote: post #15
pietervdvn wrote: post #12

Shameless plug for my project where one can easily see data from and add data to OpenStreetMap: https://MapComplete.org

Similarly, as recommended in the article, StreetComplete[1], which shows incomplete areas on your map and marks them as quests to add to :) Also recommended, Organic Maps[2], which is an OSM client that's good enough to use as my main map app (in my city, at least) Final recommendation, this interview[3] with the founder of OpenStreetMap Steve Coast. 3 hours of fascinating insight into the history and future of the p…

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Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by jraph »

taude wrote: post #17
david-gpu wrote: post #8

OpenStreetMap is great and I only wish more people using apps like Strava, RideWithGPS, Komoot or OSMAnd realized that they can contribute, benefitting everybody else using those apps. In Toronto I only see a very small number of people contributing to OSM's cycling infrastructure, which results in the map not as up-to-date, which in turn means that the aforementioned apps will not propose routes through the nicest,…

If i'm using ridewithgps, how do I contribute? is there an easy tool, or maybe it's something these tools could integrate? I know I ride trails thatdon't always show up on OSM views.

I don't know the app, but a generic way to do it would be to import your GPX trace on osm.org and add paths that are missing.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by jraph »

Hrnrurj wrote: post #3

It would be handy to give street mappers some sort of defense tool from dogs. Like air horn, sticks or maybe peper spray. India has a huge problem with packs of wild street dogs, that regularly attack and kill people. It is dangerous to roam on streets you do not know very well.

Seems horrible. That would not be specific to street mappers though, would it?
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