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Asymmetric Routing Around the Firewall

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Re: Asymmetric Routing Around the Firewall

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any inbound scan or malicious traffic would get dropped going outbound There are lots of types of maliciousness that would not be affected by this.

True. I was thinking exfil and communication. Of course fuzzing/DoS is doable.

i mean, you can have a full session via dns chat this way pretty easily

Re: Asymmetric Routing Around the Firewall

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I would think that a network that even has a physical path capable of bypassing a firewall would be considered broken by design... Or at least insecure.

As long as you want to hear back from the server you send a packet to, you’ll always be able to “reverse tunnel” into a firewall. This is because source ports are ephemerally allocated, which is a necessity unless you want to have a maximum of one HTTP connection at a time.

That said, a proper firewall implementation would only allow traffic back to a source port that is in the routing table as having an established connection. But that’s a stateful firewall (vs. stateless) and comes with its own set of complexities.

Re: Asymmetric Routing Around the Firewall

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>Later, when I realized that inbound traffic was bypassing the firewall, I notified UC Berkeley’s Information Security Office of the potential security vulnerability, but their response was somewhat lacking in urgency. So we’ll see. If I were on their infosec team I wouldn't ignore it, but also, infosec and network often different silos. If network was already notified, infosec can't do much but complain. And, it see…

Except maybe for UDP traffic a la Tailscale

Re: Asymmetric Routing Around the Firewall

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I would think that a network that even has a physical path capable of bypassing a firewall would be considered broken by design... Or at least insecure.

Networks change all the time. You don’t want to rerun cable everyday.

You can configure a router to not use a path, even though that path physically exists.

Re: Asymmetric Routing Around the Firewall

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I would think that a network that even has a physical path capable of bypassing a firewall would be considered broken by design... Or at least insecure.

Networks change all the time. You don’t want to rerun cable everyday. You can configure a router to not use a path, even though that path physically exists.

Not like this though. Someone connected two different routing domains and set up routing, or they use the same config for ospf for different routing domains which you shouldn't do.
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