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Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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I really like Kagi and this is probably Apple’s fault but the requirement to install a safari extension which then hijacks your default search is very janky and is my #1 complaint. Any reason it can’t just be added as a search engine?

You're right, it's not possible to set a custom search engine on safari. An extension is the only way. Blame apple :)

Insanity. There used to be some kind of opensearch type thing even in Safari years ago.

I guess they took it away. Ridiculous.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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post #5

I really like Kagi and this is probably Apple’s fault but the requirement to install a safari extension which then hijacks your default search is very janky and is my #1 complaint. Any reason it can’t just be added as a search engine?

You're right, it's not possible to set a custom search engine on safari. An extension is the only way. Blame apple :)

Probably the reason why google pay so much to them. This is so insane....

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

#14

I finally switched to Kagi last month after reading a bunch of HN comments that boiled down to "trust me, it's worth it." And now I'm here to say "trust me, it's worth it."

To illustrate how good kagi is, here's the things it's not as good at (for me):

1) the weather widget doesn't show precipitation chances in the future, only for today

2) historical queries like "newspaper articles on interest rates from 1/1/2008" are subpar compared to Google. Probably related to the recency of their index.

3) hyperlocal queries that rely on contextual information like location need to have that info explicitly stated, otherwise "best restaurants" returns a list of restaurants in Poland for example. Sort of inherent to the privacy thing though.

Everything else, all the normal queries work as well or better for me than Google.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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post #5

I really like Kagi and this is probably Apple’s fault but the requirement to install a safari extension which then hijacks your default search is very janky and is my #1 complaint. Any reason it can’t just be added as a search engine?

Even on other browsers, you need an extension if you want search in private browsing mode to work, since the private tabs/windows don't have access to your Kagi signin cookie. I generally just use DuckDuckGo when I open a private window, though, to avoid needing another extension.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

#16

That's some super steep pricing

It only feels that way because search has been free essentially forever.

But think -- really think -- about how much value you get out of search. Like, if you didn't have search, would you even be able to use the web? I think $10/mo for something I critically rely on several tens of times a day is a bargain!

Certainly it might be hard to sell search at $10/mo when people can get by at $0/mo. But that isn't the same thing as saying it's steep.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, it's not possible to set a custom search engine on safari. An extension is the only way. Blame apple :)

Probably the reason why google pay so much to them. This is so insane....

It's pretty bad, but to be clear, it's not that you can't pick anything other than the default, it's that you are given a tiny selection of the biggest players and have to choose from them. Other browsers allow you to specify an arbitrary URL for it to inject the query string into.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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post #5

I really like Kagi and this is probably Apple’s fault but the requirement to install a safari extension which then hijacks your default search is very janky and is my #1 complaint. Any reason it can’t just be added as a search engine?

Have you tried their browser Orion? I can barely tell I’m in a different browser.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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post #5

I really like Kagi and this is probably Apple’s fault but the requirement to install a safari extension which then hijacks your default search is very janky and is my #1 complaint. Any reason it can’t just be added as a search engine?

Have you tried their browser Orion? I can barely tell I’m in a different browser.

I love Orion. My only complaint is the way that the address bar disappears when scrolling is a bit jarring, the animation seems too fast.
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