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Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

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Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

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They use "Chili Crisp", not "Chili Oil".

There's no difference, you can go look at an Amazon listing for Lao Gan Ma and it says this: "Lao Gan Ma Spicy Chili Crisp (Chili Oil Sauce)"

The English language branding on the jar says "Chili Crisp". I'm literally looking at it in my pantry right now because now I wanna make Laoganma and Peanut Butter Toast

Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

#12
post #7

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And it’s not even original, they wanted customers to draw assocations between them and the famed Momofuku Ando.

And they aren't even Asian owned. It's the family that own's Zabar's in Upper West Side that runs Momofuku. It's wannabe Asian food for Ang Mohs Laoganma and 菜花香 豉香朝天椒 are cheaper and tastier https://www.fastcompany.com/90945101/momofuku-ceo-marguerite...

I won’t contest laoganma, but I’m pretty sure Chang still maintains ownership, and Mariscal is just the CEO?

Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

#14

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And they aren't even Asian owned. It's the family that own's Zabar's in Upper West Side that runs Momofuku. It's wannabe Asian food for Ang Mohs Laoganma and 菜花香 豉香朝天椒 are cheaper and tastier https://www.fastcompany.com/90945101/momofuku-ceo-marguerite...

I won’t contest laoganma, but I’m pretty sure Chang still maintains ownership, and Mariscal is just the CEO?

> Chang still maintains ownership

Based on their past couple rounds with Siddhi and ACG I'd doubt he has majority ownership given the margins and financing terms for FMCG.

Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

#15
post #9

They sued a friend's company as well. He wrote very vividly about what it's like to be on the receiving end. I've stayed silent for too long. And I'm not going to stay silent anymore. A few weeks ago we got sued by Momofuku. It was one of the most painful experiences of my life. After getting IBS, I decided to leave my six-figure job in Silicon Valley, to venture into the Biotech and Food-as-Medicine world in hopes o…

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Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

#16
post #9

They sued a friend's company as well. He wrote very vividly about what it's like to be on the receiving end. I've stayed silent for too long. And I'm not going to stay silent anymore. A few weeks ago we got sued by Momofuku. It was one of the most painful experiences of my life. After getting IBS, I decided to leave my six-figure job in Silicon Valley, to venture into the Biotech and Food-as-Medicine world in hopes o…

> I made my ops team work 15 hours a day to make the facility expansion deadlines.

Am I supposed to be rooting for this person?

Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no difference, you can go look at an Amazon listing for Lao Gan Ma and it says this: "Lao Gan Ma Spicy Chili Crisp (Chili Oil Sauce)"

The English language branding on the jar says "Chili Crisp". I'm literally looking at it in my pantry right now because now I wanna make Laoganma and Peanut Butter Toast

Is that a good sandwich ?

Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

#18

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The English language branding on the jar says "Chili Crisp". I'm literally looking at it in my pantry right now because now I wanna make Laoganma and Peanut Butter Toast

Is that a good sandwich ?

Yep. Anything with 香辣脆 is great.

PB+Ham or Turkey+Pickle+Cheddar is great as well

Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

#19
post #4

MomoIP LLC only applied for the trademark about a week ago-- after Pont Neuf Productions LLC trademark of the term wasn't kept up-to-date and expired in February. https://uspto.report/TM/98475401

Also the one they do own (“chile crunch”) was ironically acquired as a result of their own infringement

> Momofuku acquired “chile crunch” in 2023 from the Denver company Chile Colonial, LLC as part of a legal settlement. Chile Colonial had taken legal action against Momofuku for “trademark infringement, unfair competition”, according to court documents.

Re: Trademark bully': Momofuku turns up heat on others selling 'chili crunch'

#20
post #9

They sued a friend's company as well. He wrote very vividly about what it's like to be on the receiving end. I've stayed silent for too long. And I'm not going to stay silent anymore. A few weeks ago we got sued by Momofuku. It was one of the most painful experiences of my life. After getting IBS, I decided to leave my six-figure job in Silicon Valley, to venture into the Biotech and Food-as-Medicine world in hopes o…

My house is two different AAPI backgrounds and we love to enable other AAPI business. We'll share your stuff among our friends and community. Good luck!
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