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Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

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Re: Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

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post #9

Eh. Those look like anti-pee systems to me. I bet it was an official take "to reduce crime" - but those things are all slanted down, to push pee on your foot. And when I need to pee corners always catch my eye.

"However, the "antibandito humps" had a second usefulness, so much so that it received a second name: that of the "pissotte" or "pissabraghe": in addition to preventing criminals from hiding from their prey, it's said that the inclined casts of mortar also had the task to maintain a certain public decorum and therefore prevent Venetians from urinating in the corners of the calli."

I suspect it was the primary purpose, and anything else sounds like cleaned up reasons for publication.

As it wouldn't be hard to stand on one in the shadows.

Re: Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

#12
post #7

I always thought this was only to avoid public urination. I wonder if they added the anti-crime as PR excuse.

A nice example of Hegelian Dialectic (if we're being XIX) or Robinson Resolution (if we're being XX), involving public defecation being a crime, occurred recently in Catalunya:

Thesis: the guy pooping is a traditional element of the nativity scene

Antithesis: government sponsored nativities shouldn't depict crime

Synthesis: keep the guy, but add a police officer, writing the guy a ticket

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caganer#Controversy_surroundin...

Re: Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

#14

There are urine deflectors https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine_deflector all over Europe. Norwich in particular has a lot of them.

I'd rather effort was put into providing public toilets and urinals - public urination is the symptom of not enough facilities.

Re: Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

#15
post #7

I always thought this was only to avoid public urination. I wonder if they added the anti-crime as PR excuse.

A nice example of Hegelian Dialectic (if we're being XIX) or Robinson Resolution (if we're being XX), involving public defecation being a crime, occurred recently in Catalunya: Thesis: the guy pooping is a traditional element of the nativity scene Antithesis: government sponsored nativities shouldn't depict crime Synthesis: keep the guy, but add a police officer, writing the guy a ticket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki…

This is such a Zizek-esk kind of example of the dialectic, but I haven't heard him reference this as a classic example.

Re: Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

#17
post #7

I always thought this was only to avoid public urination. I wonder if they added the anti-crime as PR excuse.

A nice example of Hegelian Dialectic (if we're being XIX) or Robinson Resolution (if we're being XX), involving public defecation being a crime, occurred recently in Catalunya: Thesis: the guy pooping is a traditional element of the nativity scene Antithesis: government sponsored nativities shouldn't depict crime Synthesis: keep the guy, but add a police officer, writing the guy a ticket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki…

What do you mean by XIX and XX?

Thanks for the link to the caganer!

Holy crap, that is amazing.

Re: Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

#18
post #7

I always thought this was only to avoid public urination. I wonder if they added the anti-crime as PR excuse.

A nice example of Hegelian Dialectic (if we're being XIX) or Robinson Resolution (if we're being XX), involving public defecation being a crime, occurred recently in Catalunya: Thesis: the guy pooping is a traditional element of the nativity scene Antithesis: government sponsored nativities shouldn't depict crime Synthesis: keep the guy, but add a police officer, writing the guy a ticket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki…

That's so stupid! I love it!

Re: Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A nice example of Hegelian Dialectic (if we're being XIX) or Robinson Resolution (if we're being XX), involving public defecation being a crime, occurred recently in Catalunya: Thesis: the guy pooping is a traditional element of the nativity scene Antithesis: government sponsored nativities shouldn't depict crime Synthesis: keep the guy, but add a police officer, writing the guy a ticket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki…

What do you mean by XIX and XX? Thanks for the link to the caganer! Holy crap, that is amazing.

Perfect summary, well done.

Re: Anti-crime humps in medieval Venice

#20
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A nice example of Hegelian Dialectic (if we're being XIX) or Robinson Resolution (if we're being XX), involving public defecation being a crime, occurred recently in Catalunya: Thesis: the guy pooping is a traditional element of the nativity scene Antithesis: government sponsored nativities shouldn't depict crime Synthesis: keep the guy, but add a police officer, writing the guy a ticket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki…

What do you mean by XIX and XX? Thanks for the link to the caganer! Holy crap, that is amazing.

XIX: nineteenth century; XX: twentieth century; we're in the XXI now (even if we don't seem to be acting much like it)

[nb. this notation is (without red ink?) unsuitable for dates before the Age of Pisces]

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