Who could have guessed giving away all of our data to corporations wholly focused on profit would be a bad thing?
If the end result is ai chat agents that anyone in the world can access for free, that seems like an absolutely wonderful thing
Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data
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#12This will be a fun reminiscence once we find out how humans are able to learn with just a tiny fraction of that data volume.
Despite all the hoopla around AGI, the sheer amount of data required really makes human learning all the more impressive.
Gödel probably consumed a miniscule fraction of what these systems have seen. And look what he came up with!
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#13This will be a fun reminiscence once we find out how humans are able to learn with just a tiny fraction of that data volume.
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#14This will be a fun reminiscence once we find out how humans are able to learn with just a tiny fraction of that data volume.
Not sure this is a good conjecture. The main reasons are 1) AI’s are expected to have incredible range that the average human does not 2) humans actually do take in enormous amounts of data but it happens over the course of many years and most of it is audio/visual/tactile/experience.
We already see that if you want to focus on a narrow skillset you can use a much smaller model and training set. But right now it is a race because everyone wants to be the one true generalized intelligence model.
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#15Google having so many private photos in Google Photos must be a goldmine for them.
As well as emails, documents, reviews…
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#16Who could have guessed giving away all of our data to corporations wholly focused on profit would be a bad thing?
If the end result is ai chat agents that anyone in the world can access for free, that seems like an absolutely wonderful thing
That's wishful thinking though.
That said, AI tech is or is quickly becoming freely accessible; unless they have a USP, free / homemade versions will end up competing with the paid services, and it's hard to compete with free.
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#17Who could have guessed giving away all of our data to corporations wholly focused on profit would be a bad thing?
If the end result is ai chat agents that anyone in the world can access for free, that seems like an absolutely wonderful thing
If the companies making those agents are paying top dollar for training data then the product isn't going to be truly free, at best it will be "free" with caveats. Do you want to use an AI agent which is fine-tuned according to the wishes of the top bidding advertisers? Because that's probably the first thing they'll try to make "free" chatbots actually turn a profit.
The future is having your own personal AI assistant, completely free of charge, which is suspiciously eager to recommend shopping at Temu and eating at McDonalds.
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#18>in talks with multiple tech companies to license Photobucket's 13 billion photos and videos
>Photobucket declined to identify its prospective buyers, citing commercial confidentiality.
>tech companies are also quietly paying for content locked behind paywalls and login screens, giving rise to a hidden trade in everything from chat logs to long forgotten personal photos from faded social media apps
In this market, ethics seem to exist when it comes to corporate clients, but not when it comes to end-users.
It's immediately and self-evidently obvious that no end-user in 2007 consented to photos of their 2007 era teenage self being used to train an AI how to identify an emo kid.
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#19They talk about voice samples, but they don’t mention prices for them Would it be attractive for a company like Twilio or Aircall to offer free phone calls and sell anonymized recordings?
No, that's gross violation of privacy; no such thing as anonymized recordings.
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#20This will be a fun reminiscence once we find out how humans are able to learn with just a tiny fraction of that data volume.
The real difference with human learning is feedback: when young humans learn, at least some of the time they are interacting with intelligent agents that are able to give them focused feedback on their recent inputs and initial reactions to them.