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PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

#11

Are there prior projects that have the Linux kernel with a "FreeBSD userland"? This is the first time I'm hearing of such an idea. What would that entail? This report isn't particularly clear on such technical details.

I'd forgotten that some Debian folks tried the exactly opposite for a while, a FreeBSD kernel with a GNU userland: https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD

Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

#12
It's an April Fool's joke.

  "jwt NETGATE 3 days ago
  @johnpoz said in Serious ....:
    I don't recall them doing things before about April fools
  we (I) did, back in 2017 https://www.netgate.com/blog/building-a-behemoth-router
  I even pointed to it in today's."
https://forum.netgate.com/topic/187100/serious/6?_=171214303...

Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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Maybe we’ll see decent PPPoE performance from PFSense in the future then - had to move to OpenWrt as PFSense has a single threaded implementation

I associate PPPoE with dial up modems. What is the use case of this today? Also, PPPoE has been around for a quarter century: why hasn't FreeBSD delivered on it? And how is a single thread not enough to fill a broadband pipe? So many questions. So DSL and maybe Fiber services. Ok, but ISPs provide or endorse some device to deal with the wire. At that point you're free to firewall your ordinary ethernet traffic with w…

DSL

Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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post #10
post #7

Maybe we’ll see decent PPPoE performance from PFSense in the future then - had to move to OpenWrt as PFSense has a single threaded implementation

I associate PPPoE with dial up modems. What is the use case of this today? Also, PPPoE has been around for a quarter century: why hasn't FreeBSD delivered on it? And how is a single thread not enough to fill a broadband pipe? So many questions. So DSL and maybe Fiber services. Ok, but ISPs provide or endorse some device to deal with the wire. At that point you're free to firewall your ordinary ethernet traffic with w…

It's very common in the US for DSL and also some fiber providers.

Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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post #10
post #7

Maybe we’ll see decent PPPoE performance from PFSense in the future then - had to move to OpenWrt as PFSense has a single threaded implementation

I associate PPPoE with dial up modems. What is the use case of this today? Also, PPPoE has been around for a quarter century: why hasn't FreeBSD delivered on it? And how is a single thread not enough to fill a broadband pipe? So many questions. So DSL and maybe Fiber services. Ok, but ISPs provide or endorse some device to deal with the wire. At that point you're free to firewall your ordinary ethernet traffic with w…

Many DSL installations use PPPoe, additionally some Fibre installs too.

Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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Maybe we’ll see decent PPPoE performance from PFSense in the future then - had to move to OpenWrt as PFSense has a single threaded implementation

I actually ended up moving away from pf\OpnSense because of this.

No matter what switches I toggled or incantations I recited I would not get full line speed.

Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

#18

Looks like I made the right choice switching to OPNsense a couple months ago.

You mean aside from the complete lack of professionalism from Netgate \ pfSense?

When I was first looking for something to run at home I looked into them and frankly they are bad actors and should not be trusted.

Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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Looks like I made the right choice switching to OPNsense a couple months ago.

You mean aside from the complete lack of professionalism from Netgate \ pfSense? When I was first looking for something to run at home I looked into them and frankly they are bad actors and should not be trusted.

How so?

I ran pfSense ages ago, well before the OPNsense fork, and I'd like to go back to one or the other for my home network but haven't had time to research the current situation. Wouldn't mind hearing from those more familiar.

Re: PfSense Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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Looks like I made the right choice switching to OPNsense a couple months ago.

You mean aside from the complete lack of professionalism from Netgate \ pfSense? When I was first looking for something to run at home I looked into them and frankly they are bad actors and should not be trusted.

Yeah, the whole Wireguard nonsense showed that Netgate is not a serious company and that pfSense is not a serious project. It's trash that belongs onto the garbage heap of history.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/buffer-overruns-lice...

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