> themirror
Ah mate I don't know about that.
> healthy young woman who struggles with crippling depression, autism and borderline personality disorder
Besides a large hole and some rust, the Titanic is in tip top shape.
Physically healthy 28-year-old woman schedules euthanasia due to depression
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#12I guess we are slowly getting closer to having the suicide booths from Futurama.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to make an argument that freedom is inherently good, which is not obvious to me. I think it's good to force people to do things in many situations
> You have to make an argument that freedom is inherently good, which is not obvious to me Your next sentence holds that assumption as obvious: > I think it's good to force people to do things in many situations Why do you think you should have freedom to even think, let alone decide, what is good for other people?
> Why do you think you should have freedom to even think, let alone decide, what is good for other people?
It's not necessarily good for each person, but good for society. Also I don't even know if I should have that freedom, that would be something we would have to philosophically investigate.
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#14I wish more countries recognized the ultimate and inviolable right to self ownership. If we aren’t free to destroy ourselves if we so desire, we aren’t actually free.
I agree with that when the problem is irreversible and will cause unending pain for the person. However, this case does not seem like it. If she had like Parkinson or Alzheimer then I would understand but depression? There are very good anti-depressants that help go through if she cannot find another way to cope. Also, there might be something physically wrong that doctors might have overlooked which causes her depression.
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#15I am terrified of the thought of legally killing people and this article has made me feel quite odd, even slightly sick I would say. My gut just screams at me: this is wrong. And I cannot help. The rational arguments do not convince me at all. Call me old fashioned or whatever but this is how I feel about it, and since there is an article about this I imagine that there might be certain interest in this being out of…
Maybe if we weren't treated like de facto slaves for the rich life would be worth living.
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#16This was a fascinating read and really got me thinking about the morality of suicide all things considered. We’ve collectively decided as a society that suicide is a bad thing, and rarely is mental health treated the same as physical in the realm of euthanasia.
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#17I wish more countries recognized the ultimate and inviolable right to self ownership. If we aren’t free to destroy ourselves if we so desire, we aren’t actually free.
This person isn’t destroying themself. They’re forcing someone else to do it for them, and they’re shitposting online for eyeballs in the meantime.
They could die at any time. This is an elaborate show by someone who needs to be told “no” and given a clear direction.
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#18I wish more countries recognized the ultimate and inviolable right to self ownership. If we aren’t free to destroy ourselves if we so desire, we aren’t actually free.
I don't read that as an argument for euthanasia, I read it as an argument that individual liberty is not absolute.
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#19I wish more countries recognized the ultimate and inviolable right to self ownership. If we aren’t free to destroy ourselves if we so desire, we aren’t actually free.
You have to make an argument that freedom is inherently good, which is not obvious to me. I think it's good to force people to do things in many situations
> You have to make an argument that freedom is inherently good
Or accept it as axiomatic.
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#20It's very strange that the doctors told her "There’s nothing more we can do for you. It’s never gonna get any better." Was that an irresponsible off-hand remark or what? Especially given the disorders she has, perhaps if it was severe schizophrenia or some kind of neurogenerative disorder, but autism + depression + bpd? I highly doubt that they have exposed her to all possible treatment methods, which in my opinion t…
That is what I think as well. Seems very irresponsible by the doctors.