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The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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As someone who recently moved to the Texas triangle, I’m baffled by the lack of good transportation options between the three cities. It’s a 3-4 hour drive and while there is a train, freight gets priority. So the train takes anywhere from 3-7 hours. You can fly but with security any sort of delay and it would faster to drive.

other than maybe parts of the Northeast Corridor, do any of the othe "megaregions" solve that problem?

Perhaps Central FL - Miami on the Brightline?

Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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As someone who recently moved to the Texas triangle, I’m baffled by the lack of good transportation options between the three cities. It’s a 3-4 hour drive and while there is a train, freight gets priority. So the train takes anywhere from 3-7 hours. You can fly but with security any sort of delay and it would faster to drive.

A plan to connect Houston to Dallas with a bullet train has been grinding its way along for years now[0]. Since Texas is loath to use eminent domain, the planning phase has been stalled for a loooong time. [0]: https://www.texascentral.com/project/ Edit: Whoops, wrong project. Still, the plans are there, we just need willing politicians.

Rephrased, Texans think the rights of private land owners matter more than the latest politician’s talking points.

The people downvoting this have clearly never had government agents steal anything from them. Or believe that when they do, it’s always “for the greater good”.

Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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post #3

Megaregions as a concept seems to make sense. Even as a resident of the aforementioned triangle, I'm not sure that we have much evidence for Texas exceptionalism here.

The article tries & fails to convey this megaregion is "distinctive". Main pieces of evidence it offers are,

1. Distinctive set of demographic and economic realities

This is not a very compelling argument. Different places have different people. We should not be surprised by this observation.

2. Integrated economic system within a single state

Same article also cites other one-state megaregions like Florida, Southern California, Nortern California.

Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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post #2

I never thought about it before - but seeing that chart of "Megaregions", almost none of my work travel within the US from the last 15 years has been outside of those regions.

I feel like I'm missing some nuance, because it looks like it's basically just taking the largest population cities in the US and drawing circles around the ones near each other. "Most economic activity happens where the most people live" doesn't seem like a particularly novel insight.

Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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As someone who recently moved to the Texas triangle, I’m baffled by the lack of good transportation options between the three cities. It’s a 3-4 hour drive and while there is a train, freight gets priority. So the train takes anywhere from 3-7 hours. You can fly but with security any sort of delay and it would faster to drive.

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Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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As someone who recently moved to the Texas triangle, I’m baffled by the lack of good transportation options between the three cities. It’s a 3-4 hour drive and while there is a train, freight gets priority. So the train takes anywhere from 3-7 hours. You can fly but with security any sort of delay and it would faster to drive.

the top down purview is that texas is an oil state.

Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

other than maybe parts of the Northeast Corridor, do any of the othe "megaregions" solve that problem?

LA/OxnardVentura/SanDiego is an easy train. As is Portland/Seattle.

Does the Portland/Seattle train get priority over freight?

Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

other than maybe parts of the Northeast Corridor, do any of the othe "megaregions" solve that problem?

The San Diego - LA basin is moderately well covered, but the train is still slower than driving - most of the time. Unless you have exceptionally fast and direct rail, the train is almost always slower than driving, even in Europe, when counted door to door.

This is definitely not true. Europes high speed trains are far far faster than driving. For example, Rome to Milan via italo is 3h - 3h 40min while driving is 6h. Even the "normal high speed" train is only ~5h.

Similarly Marseille to Paris is only 3.5h by train while driving is almost 8h. It entirely depends on your source and destination. Between major economic hubs train is usually faster than driving, and as you can see by a significant amount. For other routes the train is similar or slightly slower.

In North America, on the other hand, the train is almost always MUCH MUCH slower than driving, if you can take it at all. Not to mention far more expensive.

Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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post #14
post #2

I never thought about it before - but seeing that chart of "Megaregions", almost none of my work travel within the US from the last 15 years has been outside of those regions.

I feel like I'm missing some nuance, because it looks like it's basically just taking the largest population cities in the US and drawing circles around the ones near each other. "Most economic activity happens where the most people live" doesn't seem like a particularly novel insight.

Yeah I question the usefulness of the concept if stretched too thin. It has Chicago and Pittsburgh in the same megaregion and yet I don’t think those two places interact much at all. I can buy SoCal, the Bay Area, and Boston-DC as megaregions though.

Re: The Texas Triangle: A rising megaregion unlike all others (2021)

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As someone who recently moved to the Texas triangle, I’m baffled by the lack of good transportation options between the three cities. It’s a 3-4 hour drive and while there is a train, freight gets priority. So the train takes anywhere from 3-7 hours. You can fly but with security any sort of delay and it would faster to drive.

A plan to connect Houston to Dallas with a bullet train has been grinding its way along for years now[0]. Since Texas is loath to use eminent domain, the planning phase has been stalled for a loooong time. [0]: https://www.texascentral.com/project/ Edit: Whoops, wrong project. Still, the plans are there, we just need willing politicians.

> Since Texas is loath to use eminent domain, the planning phase has been stalled for a loooong time.

Is this a state policy? It isn't necessarily a city one, see https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/fort-worth/article2... and related which I've seen pop up in the news at time for decades. "The City Council has authorized the use of eminent domain 29 times in the past two years, the most the city has used the land grabbing tactic since 2013."

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