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A 29-year-old on the difficulties of landing a first job

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Re: A 29-year-old on the difficulties of landing a first job

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If you were my little brother, and you told me that you had applied to 100 jobs you were strongly qualified for and got zero offers, I would put on my big brother pants and make some fairly pointed observations about your skills, beginning with lead qualification. I would then advise working on skills like lead qualification over sending out 100 more resumes into a process which, as your big brother who loves you has…

What do you mean by "lead qualification"? Searching Google wasn't helpful...

It is a term from sales. For a particular seller of something (say, talent) there are a pool of potential buyers. They're called leads. You learn about them or they come to you. Some of them are better fits than others. Lead qualification is the process of sorting out leads who are worth your effort in selling from those who are not, who you either a) don't attempt to sell or b) use less time-intensive ways of selling.

For example, I consult, and while in principle I could attempt to sell anyone with authority to write a check on consulting engagements, I don't. If I meet someone at a party and he says "I don't have a website but..." there is no possible end to that sentence whatsoever under which he is a good prospect for business in the near term. If you want a Rails programmer? Nope, sorry, I'm probably not your guy. If you're a software company with $10k in the bank, you can't afford a formal engagement with me. Strongly qualified leads for me tend to, e.g., have over 10 employees, profitable software businesses with revenue in the millions to tens of millions, multiple opportunities for things I can do for them, a business model which suggests ample opportunity for positive ROI at the rates I charge, and some reason to have personal trust for me.

To the extent that I do active sales work (e.g. flying out to a city to meet with your CEO, creating proposals, etc), I focus my active sales work on qualified leads, rather than "any business I could possibly think of."

Applying this to a job search: he's sending resumes to places which are not hiring. That isn't a strongly qualified lead. That's like me soliciting five figure checks off every passerby in Ogaki Station. Total waste of time.

Re: A 29-year-old on the difficulties of landing a first job

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If you were my little brother, and you told me that you had applied to 100 jobs you were strongly qualified for and got zero offers, I would put on my big brother pants and make some fairly pointed observations about your skills, beginning with lead qualification. I would then advise working on skills like lead qualification over sending out 100 more resumes into a process which, as your big brother who loves you has…

I was thinking the same thing. If you send out 100 resumes a week, how great a quality can any of them be? If only because of how exhausted and frustrated you get after sending out 100 resumes. Take your time, research some companies where you'd be a good fit and REALLY do your best to write an excellent cover letter and a tailored resume.

I'm so totally with you on this part:

Take your time, research some companies where you'd be a good fit and REALLY do your best to

and then it needs to get followed with "convince the person with hiring authority in the company to hire you." The resume is designed to be rejected.

Re: A 29-year-old on the difficulties of landing a first job

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If you were my little brother, and you told me that you had applied to 100 jobs you were strongly qualified for and got zero offers, I would put on my big brother pants and make some fairly pointed observations about your skills, beginning with lead qualification. I would then advise working on skills like lead qualification over sending out 100 more resumes into a process which, as your big brother who loves you has…

I was thinking the same thing. If you send out 100 resumes a week, how great a quality can any of them be? If only because of how exhausted and frustrated you get after sending out 100 resumes. Take your time, research some companies where you'd be a good fit and REALLY do your best to write an excellent cover letter and a tailored resume.

My parents (and I'm sure many others) pushed for resume blasts until the last couple of years. It makes sense from the perspective of the world they grew up in. You sent as many as you could and got a lot of job opportunities to choose from.

I sent out 15 highly targeted applications and got a 100% response rate. All of them were polite, mostly manually written rejections. I got one interview that went nowhere. That's when I decided I'd be better off starting my own business.

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If you were my little brother, and you told me that you had applied to 100 jobs you were strongly qualified for and got zero offers, I would put on my big brother pants and make some fairly pointed observations about your skills, beginning with lead qualification. I would then advise working on skills like lead qualification over sending out 100 more resumes into a process which, as your big brother who loves you has…

Good advice. My question: is he strongly qualified for the positions he applies to? He doesn't mention having any particular skill.

He says he could get a job worth $36,000. But he thinks he's worth more. Maybe, but it's not clear why, from the article. I think our current system creates a mismatch between skills and expectations for new liberal arts grads.

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While we're providing isolated, non-representative examples: I graduated in 2009 from a crappy Podunk school whose average SAT was 980 (on the old 1600 scale). It only costs about two grand a semester. I majored in CS. I had an internship at a credit union, then a job in insurance lined up before graduating, and then two years later I was hired by OkCupid. I have sent out exactly three resumes in my life, and never been rejected. I don't have any extraordinary accomplishments that I'm omitting.

As far as I can see, the economy is fine. Your mileage will almost certainly vary.

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If you were my little brother, and you told me that you had applied to 100 jobs you were strongly qualified for and got zero offers, I would put on my big brother pants and make some fairly pointed observations about your skills, beginning with lead qualification. I would then advise working on skills like lead qualification over sending out 100 more resumes into a process which, as your big brother who loves you has…

"networking" is important. I'd have thought that "paying money to get into an event in order to network" was a sub-optimal version of networking.

I agree that zero responses to 100 letters and resumés mean that something is wrong with the letters or resumés. But the author claims to be researching and tailoring, so I'm not sure what's going wrong there.

Certainly that amount of research and work could be spent on building 'on spec' relationships with relevant companies.

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> At this point, you're probably wondering why I'm not looking at retail, restaurant, or coffee shop jobs. The truth is that I am, but due to my resume, experience, and other such things, these places assume I'll leave as soon as something "corporate" pops up.

Well, you really need to tailor your application to be suitable for the jobs.

Re: A 29-year-old on the difficulties of landing a first job

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Why am I not surprised he's not finding someone willing to hire a 29 year old with zero work experience.

Others have a CV reaching back 5+ years at that age.

Don't put that much time exclusively into uni unless you intend to stay in science or aim for a cushy cubicle job that hires on the premise of paper-planes.

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If you were my little brother, and you told me that you had applied to 100 jobs you were strongly qualified for and got zero offers, I would put on my big brother pants and make some fairly pointed observations about your skills, beginning with lead qualification. I would then advise working on skills like lead qualification over sending out 100 more resumes into a process which, as your big brother who loves you has…

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