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The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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Re: The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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David Revoy has been making fantastic Krita tutorial videos on his Youtube and is an artist that promotes and teaches a lot of art-related opensource/Linux things in addition to doing the regular comics. https://www.youtube.com/@DavidRevoy/videos

In the spirit of FOSS, he also publishes his video on peertube: https://peertube.touhoppai.moe/a/shichimi/video-channels

Disclaimer: I manage this Peertube instance and used to mirror, with his agreement, those channels as mirrors, and he's now managing them directly.

Re: The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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David Revoy's involvement in FOSS is almost a blessing. He has drawn this comic, Pepper and Carrot, using free software like Krita. But that's only the surface level of his contribution to FOSS. He has pioneered a collaborative approach to comic translation in an industry where most publishers respond to volunteer translators with legal threats. (See [1] for the dominant sentiment among conventional comic publishers.…

i'm drawn to FOSS by my values, and David really is out there living his values. we have a number of people in this space who strive for that same ideal -- and i appreciate them all -- but it really is too easy to get bogged down in the low level stuff. David is so important to this space because ironically enough, he escapes the last 'S' in that acronym: he shows us a world in which FOSS can be so much more than "just" software.

Re: The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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post #11
post #4

David Revoy has been making fantastic Krita tutorial videos on his Youtube and is an artist that promotes and teaches a lot of art-related opensource/Linux things in addition to doing the regular comics. https://www.youtube.com/@DavidRevoy/videos

In the spirit of FOSS, he also publishes his video on peertube: https://peertube.touhoppai.moe/a/shichimi/video-channels Disclaimer: I manage this Peertube instance and used to mirror, with his agreement, those channels as mirrors, and he's now managing them directly.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I was on a different peertube instance, there'd be no way to discover his videos aside from word-of-mouth? As in, peertube has no global search, right?

Re: The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the spirit of FOSS, he also publishes his video on peertube: https://peertube.touhoppai.moe/a/shichimi/video-channels Disclaimer: I manage this Peertube instance and used to mirror, with his agreement, those channels as mirrors, and he's now managing them directly.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I was on a different peertube instance, there'd be no way to discover his videos aside from word-of-mouth? As in, peertube has no global search, right?

Discoverability is indeed lacking in Peertube, as for global search, what looks the most like it is https://sepiasearch.org/

Re: The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the spirit of FOSS, he also publishes his video on peertube: https://peertube.touhoppai.moe/a/shichimi/video-channels Disclaimer: I manage this Peertube instance and used to mirror, with his agreement, those channels as mirrors, and he's now managing them directly.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I was on a different peertube instance, there'd be no way to discover his videos aside from word-of-mouth? As in, peertube has no global search, right?

There is offering from the creators of Peertube I believe: https://sepiasearch.org/. I think instances have to be added manually into the index, and tbh I don't use it much and so I'm not sure of the quality. But it sort of covers what you're asking for, at least kinda.

Re: The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's also a challenge to start a new art project in this era of unethical AI art, pay to win social media, algorithms with cryptic rules that serve the interests of their platforms, search engines that only return commercial partnerships and AI pollution. But now I'm confident that I will find a way and bring interesting answers to the table." - the original post "Safari can't open the page 'shortbread.ai' because S…

Y'all unfairly flagged my comment. It was a totally valid thread of conversation. I didn't read to the end of the blog post to see the closing remarks about AI because there was no context about what Pepper and Carrot is/was. You'd think someone who liberally licenses their work and encourages reuse would be happy that remixing is available to lots more people. I don't understand how you want your work to be reused,…

> I just want the tools to be built on ethical datasets based on scrapping only Public Domain and CC-0 resources before using them (or the work of artists who consent).

Just a side note, but this seems like a movement of goalposts. Surely if a model is open weights with mega-attribution, CC-BY or CC-BY-SA is fine?

Not to mention Adobe Firefly already exists which would meet his definition of ethics.

Even the Creative Commons themselves have said something different:

> In the context of an enforceable right, the ability to opt out from such uses must be considered the legislative ceiling, as opt-in and consent-based approaches would lock away large swaths of the commons due to the excessive length and scope of copyright protection, as well as the fact that most works are not actively managed in any way.

Source: https://creativecommons.org/2023/10/07/making-ai-work-for-cr...

And let's not forget what free culture is about:

> The free-culture movement is a social movement that promotes the freedom to distribute and modify the creative works of others in the form of free content or open content without compensation to, or the consent of, the work's original creators

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-culture_movement

It's about giving power back to the users and consumers, not to artists or developers.

It's nice to see the project isn't ending because of this though, and only because he felt it was good to end the story on a high note.

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