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Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by slibhb »

nemomarx wrote: post #7
slibhb wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If capitalism cares about anything, it's economic growth. It's unclear to me how half-assing two jobs is good for economic growth.

If you perform well enough that your boss doesn't notice, clearly it's providing the value you're getting paid for it? And getting 2-3 jobs out of a person is a multiplier to growth in theory, since they augment more other workers labour.

> If you perform well enough that your boss doesn't notice, clearly it's providing the value you're getting paid for it?

Let's assume the goal of capitalism is economic growth. The fact that you can hold two jobs while doing no work is not evidence that your actions are helping either of your companies, or the economy, grow.

Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by curtisblaine »

sandspar wrote: post #3
itqwertz wrote: post #2

If you work remotely, a good cure for boredom is working 2+ jobs with minimal responsibilities or expectations. Spinning plates, keeping a mediocre output for keeping the job, is a great wealth and boredom fix.

It's a shit market and you're taking someone's job and doing it half assed. The other job seeker loses, your boss loses, you win. In Cipolla's formula this is "bandit with a side of stupid."

The company would gladly replace you with one person doing exactly your job for half the pay - why if you do the same thing reversed you have to care if "your boss loses"?

Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by Nathanba »

nemomarx wrote: post #7
slibhb wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If capitalism cares about anything, it's economic growth. It's unclear to me how half-assing two jobs is good for economic growth.

If you perform well enough that your boss doesn't notice, clearly it's providing the value you're getting paid for it? And getting 2-3 jobs out of a person is a multiplier to growth in theory, since they augment more other workers labour.

that's like saying "if you steal from someone and he doesnt notice it, clearly he doesn't need it" If you think about this a bit more deeply, you realize "wait...a second"

Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by wryoak »

testacpwoek wrote: post #6
sandspar wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a shit market and you're taking someone's job and doing it half assed. The other job seeker loses, your boss loses, you win. In Cipolla's formula this is "bandit with a side of stupid."

> The other job seeker loses, your boss loses, you win Yes, that is how our economic system works. What, are you under the illusion we still have some kind of social contract or moral responsibility toward society? If my CEO doesn't, why the hell should I? For the record I don't think it's good, but I didn't invent the game, we're all just trying to play it as best we can.

It’s about the moral contract with yourself, but that’s your business and no one else’s. If you compare your values to those of your CEO, or anyone, then you’ve likely lost sight of that. You become fearful of being who you want to be and fixated on attachment and loss prevention.

Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by Rinzler89 »

itqwertz wrote: post #2

If you work remotely, a good cure for boredom is working 2+ jobs with minimal responsibilities or expectations. Spinning plates, keeping a mediocre output for keeping the job, is a great wealth and boredom fix.

>2+ jobs with minimal responsibilities or expectations

I was never lucky to find such jobs in my life. Every job I had enough on my plate to not have enough time and energy for a second job.

Plus, in my EU country working 2 full time jobs at the same time is impossible since employers can ask to see your social security contributions history before you start work to make sure it matches what you said in your resume, and there it shows your current and past employment history so they'll find out. Even if you don't get caught at that stage, if you get caught later, they can sue you for it if they find out.

Feels like only Americans have this luxury of plentiful easy jobs for big money and employers who don't ask questions.

Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by api »

sandspar wrote: post #3
itqwertz wrote: post #2

If you work remotely, a good cure for boredom is working 2+ jobs with minimal responsibilities or expectations. Spinning plates, keeping a mediocre output for keeping the job, is a great wealth and boredom fix.

It's a shit market and you're taking someone's job and doing it half assed. The other job seeker loses, your boss loses, you win. In Cipolla's formula this is "bandit with a side of stupid."

It’s also poisoning the well for other remote workers, giving remote work a bad name.

Ruin everything for a quick buck and then run, very hustle culture. Of course I guess our society is incentivizing this kind of behavior.

Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by sesm »

itqwertz wrote: post #2

If you work remotely, a good cure for boredom is working 2+ jobs with minimal responsibilities or expectations. Spinning plates, keeping a mediocre output for keeping the job, is a great wealth and boredom fix.

I have several things to say about this:

1. Jobs with minimal responsibilities pay minimal salary

2. Influencers that promoted overemployment during Covid are now unemployed and trying to survive by selling informational products

3. If a scammer offers you a deal to scam someone, in reality the most likely victim of the scam is you

Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by card_zero »

Nathanba wrote: post #13
nemomarx wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you perform well enough that your boss doesn't notice, clearly it's providing the value you're getting paid for it? And getting 2-3 jobs out of a person is a multiplier to growth in theory, since they augment more other workers labour.

that's like saying "if you steal from someone and he doesnt notice it, clearly he doesn't need it" If you think about this a bit more deeply, you realize "wait...a second"

That's correct for property: it's called "adverse possession".

Re: Suppressing boredom at work hurts future productivity

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Post by babyshake »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #16
itqwertz wrote: post #2

If you work remotely, a good cure for boredom is working 2+ jobs with minimal responsibilities or expectations. Spinning plates, keeping a mediocre output for keeping the job, is a great wealth and boredom fix.

>2+ jobs with minimal responsibilities or expectations I was never lucky to find such jobs in my life. Every job I had enough on my plate to not have enough time and energy for a second job. Plus, in my EU country working 2 full time jobs at the same time is impossible since employers can ask to see your social security contributions history before you start work to make sure it matches what you said in your resume,…

I'm not capable of this, but I think the idea for many is to get a job that does have responsibilities and expectations, and treat it like a job with minimal responsibilities and expectations.
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