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Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

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Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#11
post #7

I really hope the crazy prize increase of vmware products will end the use of esxi and the rest of the vsphere suite, it is one of the worst applications and apis i have ever had the displeasure of working with!

VMware has a track record of pretty great reliability across a vast array of hardware. Yes, the APIs suck, but they're a case study on tech debt: vSphere is basically the Windows equivalent of datacenter APIs. They chose the best technology at the time (2009, which meant SOAP, Powershell, XML, etc) and had too much inertia to rework it.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#12
post #9

I am researching whether to buy puts on AVGO (Broadcom, owner of VMware) since I believe their Vmware revenue will crater in 12 months or so. They took on 32 billion in debt to buy VMW also, which will tank their stock price, I think.

I'd exercise caution, in my experience, it'll take years for companies to transition from VMware to somewhere else. In the interim, their revenue will most likely pop as they're squeezing the shit out of these unlucky souls.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#13
post #9

I am researching whether to buy puts on AVGO (Broadcom, owner of VMware) since I believe their Vmware revenue will crater in 12 months or so. They took on 32 billion in debt to buy VMW also, which will tank their stock price, I think.

All of AVGO/Broadcom's moves with VMware have been to keep revenue somewhat steady by focusing on their biggest customers locked into their ecosystem, while drastically cutting back everything else to lower expenses. This should produce excellent short-term financial results which the market will very likely reward with a higher stock price over the next year or two. The board and C-suites know what they are doing.

Of course, destroying the trust they had with their customers means the long-term prospects of the VMware are not so good.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#14
post #8

I have been running proxmox at home for a few months now. It has been, to say the least, an adventure. And I have nothing but good things to say about Proxmox at this point. Its running not only my home related items (MQTT, Homeassitant), it also plays host to some of the projects I'm working on (postgres, go apps, etc...) rather than runing some sort of local dev. If you need to exit vmware, proxmox seems like a goo…

I’ve been doing that for almost two years now, including ARM nodes (via a fork). It’s been awesome, and even though I am fully aware Proxmox does not match the entire VMware feature set (I used to migrate VMware stuff to Azure), it has been a game changer in multiple ways.

Case in point: just this weekend a drive started to die on one of my hosts (I still use HDDs on older machines). I backed up the VMs on it to my NAS (you can do that by just having a Samba storage entry defined across the entire cluster), replaced the disk, restored, done.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#17

Very swift move by Proxmox. For context, VMware recently increased their prices as much as 1200% for some customers.

Tons of products like this have existed for years. Virt-v2v (which I wrote) since 2007/8, Platespin, Xen XCP, AWS's tooling, Azure Migrate etc.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#20
post #7

I really hope the crazy prize increase of vmware products will end the use of esxi and the rest of the vsphere suite, it is one of the worst applications and apis i have ever had the displeasure of working with!

I can't concur. VMware was the leader in virtualization technology for a long time, and honestly nothing is quite as simple to start with as ESXi if you've never used a type 1 hypervisor before. I'm not so familiar with the APIs, so perhaps you're correct in that sense.
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