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Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

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Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

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Post by coldtea »

I'd be more interested in the dirty personal laundry of the author of the article.

Are they a model boy scout in all aspects? Did they ever lied in a relationship? Did they ever cheated? Did they back stab some colleague to get a leg up? Do they write hypocritically about things they don't believe in because they sell? Do they ever call their aging mother who sacrificed her life to raise them? Have they hurled abuse at their ex while drunk?

Sadly we will never know. We could really use some quality journalism such as this.

Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

#12

Post by coldtea »

bittercynic wrote: post #8
Nathanael_M wrote: post #3

The stunning "gotcha" of this witch hunt (undoubtedly brought on by his proximity to individuals that the author doesn't like) is that Andrew Huberman was a bad boyfriend, weirdly flaky in his social life, and not an expert in all of the 100s of topics he discusses on his podcast (usually discussed with actual experts in the topics). Okay... Listen, if we stopped deriving information, education, or entertainment from…

I've listened to a few episodes of the podcast, and enjoyed them, but I think he sometimes acts as though he is a model of how to live a healthy, well balanced life, and this article is a pretty convincing account that he isn't.

Did people expected him to be some kind of ultra healthy, jacked up, Buddha-Christ figure in his daily life?

Of course he has flaws, he is human.

And his personal life is his personal life. Writing a news profile about his would be as moral or relevent as some newspaper writing one about yours or mine.

I'd be actually concerned about his public function: about how he sells some new "scientific" lifestyle advice every week, an endless cycle of shallow unsettled science, bro advice, fads, and basically selling hope.

Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

#13

Post by foogazi »

coldtea wrote: post #11

I'd be more interested in the dirty personal laundry of the author of the article. Are they a model boy scout in all aspects? Did they ever lied in a relationship? Did they ever cheated? Did they back stab some colleague to get a leg up? Do they write hypocritically about things they don't believe in because they sell? Do they ever call their aging mother who sacrificed her life to raise them? Have they hurled abuse…

So character-assassinate the messenger ?

Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

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Post by coldtea »

foogazi wrote: post #13
coldtea wrote: post #11

I'd be more interested in the dirty personal laundry of the author of the article. Are they a model boy scout in all aspects? Did they ever lied in a relationship? Did they ever cheated? Did they back stab some colleague to get a leg up? Do they write hypocritically about things they don't believe in because they sell? Do they ever call their aging mother who sacrificed her life to raise them? Have they hurled abuse…

So character-assassinate the messenger ?

"Assassinate the assasinator" - this doesn't sound as bad now, does it?

Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

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Post by 000ooo000 »

Of the alcohol episode, the article says:

>While he claims repeatedly that he doesn’t want to “demonize alcohol,” he fails to mask his obvious disapproval of anyone who consumes alcohol in any quantity.

I've listened to that ep a couple of times and not once did I come away with that impression, even remotely. This article is kind of garbage.

Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

#16

Post by stephenitis »

Anecdote. I saw him talk on stage ant Psychedelic Science '23 about his MDMA experiences and he recounted how in his 3-4th experience he did it alone and at home and he felt nothing but hours of anger and rage. He didn't go into more detail about it but it raised an a big eyebrow and left me confused how that could happen.

sudden anger seemed to be reflected in the witness accounts from ex girlfriends and a recent YouTube video of a reporter, Scott Carney, who recounted being befriended by Huberman, ghosted, ghosted again on a trip that involved learning to dive and swim with shark. The journalist had a scathing impression of Huberman.

https://youtu.be/d1oTcX7SoE8?si=MVSYriHGy_GcMkp1 https://youtu.be/RvOKFXmkmc0?si=-yQcyGF90UWQ_iW4

Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

#17

Post by canjobear »

Handprint4469 wrote: post #5

From the article: > Sarah was, in fact, changing. She felt herself getting smaller, constantly appeasing. She apologized, again and again and again. “I have been selfish, childish, and confused,” she said. “As a result, I need your protection.” A spokesperson for Huberman denies Sarah’s accounts of their fights, Having played around with local LLM chatbots using different models and templates ("characters"), I find t…

It is indeed a very weird way of talking, characteristic of prepared statements and forced apologies.

Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

#18

Post by sshine »

stephenitis wrote: post #16

Anecdote. I saw him talk on stage ant Psychedelic Science '23 about his MDMA experiences and he recounted how in his 3-4th experience he did it alone and at home and he felt nothing but hours of anger and rage. He didn't go into more detail about it but it raised an a big eyebrow and left me confused how that could happen. sudden anger seemed to be reflected in the witness accounts from ex girlfriends and a recent Yo…

Huberman gets angry.

Huberman didn’t treat his girlfriend nice.

Huberman ditched a journalist on a vacation.

Are we trying to cancel Huberman for being a human?

Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

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Post by [deleted] »

bittercynic wrote: post #8
Nathanael_M wrote: post #3

The stunning "gotcha" of this witch hunt (undoubtedly brought on by his proximity to individuals that the author doesn't like) is that Andrew Huberman was a bad boyfriend, weirdly flaky in his social life, and not an expert in all of the 100s of topics he discusses on his podcast (usually discussed with actual experts in the topics). Okay... Listen, if we stopped deriving information, education, or entertainment from…

I've listened to a few episodes of the podcast, and enjoyed them, but I think he sometimes acts as though he is a model of how to live a healthy, well balanced life, and this article is a pretty convincing account that he isn't.

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Re: Andrew Huberman's Mechanisms of Control

#20

Post by sshine »

coldtea wrote: post #12
bittercynic wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've listened to a few episodes of the podcast, and enjoyed them, but I think he sometimes acts as though he is a model of how to live a healthy, well balanced life, and this article is a pretty convincing account that he isn't.

Did people expected him to be some kind of ultra healthy, jacked up, Buddha-Christ figure in his daily life? Of course he has flaws, he is human. And his personal life is his personal life. Writing a news profile about his would be as moral or relevent as some newspaper writing one about yours or mine. I'd be actually concerned about his public function: about how he sells some new "scientific" lifestyle advice every…

> I'd be actually concerned about his public function: about how he sells some new "scientific" lifestyle advice every week

Why? It’s great advice.

His “sleep toolkit” episode taught me a lot about how to get better sleep.

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