There's nothing really there yet besides the readme file. I saw this the other day on GitHub trending and left with mixed feelings. You can launch an empty repo riding the clicks and sharing what essentialy is a parked domain template, as long as the keywords match the narrative.
OpenDevin – open-source implementation of devin
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#12There's nothing really there yet besides the readme file. I saw this the other day on GitHub trending and left with mixed feelings. You can launch an empty repo riding the clicks and sharing what essentialy is a parked domain template, as long as the keywords match the narrative.
I can't really expect Devin to be remade overnight, but I have my doubts too
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't get what's special about Devin. I noticed the same logic issues I've seen with ChatGPT or Copilot or Gemini. OpenAI already did spend quite a bit on software development reinforcement learning and we already have models with huge context windows. We've already seen OSS projects where ai agents collaborate to create code projects. If you use CodeLlama, throw some engineering manpower to create feedback loop wi…
> I don't get what's special about Devin. Did you watch the YouTube videos? I’m also skeptical it can do all the things it appears to be able to do, but I think it’s undeniable that what they show it doing (totally unverified as it is)… …is significantly more capable than any other programming agent I’ve seen. If openAI had that capability, they would be selling it. They are not. I doubt very much that they’re just h…
If it was that easy, someone would have done a year ago
Devin isn't as original as it's marketing claims, there are prior tools in this space (eg. Sweep). I've no idea whether it's significantly better than them, but certainly the magic is the underlying LLM, not Devin.
No reason at all why other devs - including open source - can't continue to provide competitors at that same surface level.
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#14There are two parts to “writing a Devin”. 1) a pretty user interface, a backend service layer, all the normal things you’d need for a desktop app or saas. 2) a backend that can actually do work. I’m going to go out a limb here and say, building an MVP of the UI is a waste of your time. …because, unless you know how to build the backend (ie. part 2), you actually, have no idea what you need to build for part one . You…
So… don’t hold your breath. If you see someone building a UI (like this https://github.com/OpenDevin/OpenDevin/tree/main/frontend, https://github.com/stitionai/devika/tree/main/ui; just read the commit log, it’s basically just ui
Yes. If you link to the UI sections of a repo you will likely see "basically just ui" commit history.
I guess you could argue that it’s important “setup infrastructure” stuff that any project starts with… but I’m just sceptical.
Of course it's an early stage pilot, it's only been developed since the Devin hype, why should it compete in quality at this very early time?
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#15There are two parts to “writing a Devin”. 1) a pretty user interface, a backend service layer, all the normal things you’d need for a desktop app or saas. 2) a backend that can actually do work. I’m going to go out a limb here and say, building an MVP of the UI is a waste of your time. …because, unless you know how to build the backend (ie. part 2), you actually, have no idea what you need to build for part one . You…
Yes. I can't believe the amount of negative comments on Devin or just brushing it off.
It is hard to build something like that.
If it's just a GPT wrapper, we would have tons of indie hackers building competitors and making 10k MRR by now.
The agents, prompts and orchestration are difficult problems to solve.
On the other hand, you have people thinking it's impossible to build something like that. I also disagree.
From a complexity perspective, coding a piece of software is no harder than driving an autonomous vehicle, since the logic is fixed and the environment is deterministic. If we can get to L5 for AV, I don't see why we can't get to L5 for coding.
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#16There are two parts to “writing a Devin”. 1) a pretty user interface, a backend service layer, all the normal things you’d need for a desktop app or saas. 2) a backend that can actually do work. I’m going to go out a limb here and say, building an MVP of the UI is a waste of your time. …because, unless you know how to build the backend (ie. part 2), you actually, have no idea what you need to build for part one . You…
So… don’t hold your breath. If you see someone building a UI (like this https://github.com/OpenDevin/OpenDevin/tree/main/frontend , https://github.com/stitionai/devika/tree/main/ui ; just read the commit log, it’s basically just ui Yes. If you link to the UI sections of a repo you will likely see "basically just ui" commit history. I guess you could argue that it’s important “setup infrastructure” stuff that any proj…
Well I don't see why not set up the UI part first if that's what currently possible. There's no shortage of LLM frontends right now but practically all of them are very meh (if I see another overused default theme Gradio app I will stab my eyes out).
When Zuck releases Llama 3 in July or whenever we might have something to plug this into.
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#17fuck you devin
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#18fuck you devin
Ach, programmers! You ruined programming!
Re: OpenDevin – open-source implementation of devin
#19There are two parts to “writing a Devin”. 1) a pretty user interface, a backend service layer, all the normal things you’d need for a desktop app or saas. 2) a backend that can actually do work. I’m going to go out a limb here and say, building an MVP of the UI is a waste of your time. …because, unless you know how to build the backend (ie. part 2), you actually, have no idea what you need to build for part one . You…
Isn't Devin a GPT-4 wrapper too, with an increased context size?
Isn't a web browser just a wrapper around http requests, with some memoization and rendering?
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
So… don’t hold your breath. If you see someone building a UI (like this https://github.com/OpenDevin/OpenDevin/tree/main/frontend , https://github.com/stitionai/devika/tree/main/ui ; just read the commit log, it’s basically just ui Yes. If you link to the UI sections of a repo you will likely see "basically just ui" commit history. I guess you could argue that it’s important “setup infrastructure” stuff that any proj…
Well I don't see why not set up the UI part first if that's what currently possible. There's no shortage of LLM frontends right now but practically all of them are very meh (if I see another overused default theme Gradio app I will stab my eyes out). When Zuck releases Llama 3 in July or whenever we might have something to plug this into.
One reason why: they spent their launch hype on vaporware. If they had done the hard part and then launched with a default theme Gradio app around that, it would be much better for gathering excited developers.