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If you can't tell that your employees are actually doing work without one of these tools then what are you paying them for? What computer job has no externally visible sign of work being done except "looks busy?"

Middle management.

Re: I will NEVER add such a privacy breaking a**hole feature

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If you can't tell that your employees are actually doing work without one of these tools then what are you paying them for? What computer job has no externally visible sign of work being done except "looks busy?"

I don't agree with it myself...

... but more often than you would hope any maintenance work is considered like this. System maintenance, codebase maintenance. Even some sorts of support too.

Re: I will NEVER add such a privacy breaking a**hole feature

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The most interesting part of this tool is that it has enterprise features and it’s still free. I mean why. You’re producing a product to handle large amounts of money and you don’t want a cut?

Usually means they're getting paid in other ways.

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If you can't tell that your employees are actually doing work without one of these tools then what are you paying them for? What computer job has no externally visible sign of work being done except "looks busy?"

And if people are resting and vesting, even if it’s not a pay issue, there’s definitely a culture issue in the company.

You also need good examples from leadership, good recognition of good work, good ways to provide both positive and negative feedback, good roadmap planning, choose the “right” things to work on that are both intellectually challenging and provide good value for customers, have good engineering processes in place that minimize gatekeepers and pedantic bikeshedding…

Not to say any of that is easy. Just that the natural consequence of getting too much of it wrong is that people just mentally check out.

Re: I will NEVER add such a privacy breaking a**hole feature

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He's not wrong and tracking your employees like that is actually illegal in Switzerland and probably other places as well. In fact if you install security cameras in your work place they can not be used to track employees. You are permitted to gather overall metrics over all employees but you can't track individuals. There are exceptions but only for very specific instances. If you don't trust your employees to do th…

Switzerland laws don't have an overall prohibition expressed that directly. Moreover the videosurveillance and system surveillance are treated separately even if some common laws apply.

The intent of the surveillance and the communication to employees is more relevant thant the technical means.

> In short, a surveillance system is prohibited if it is intended solely or primarily to monitor the actual behaviour of employees. However, the same system will not be prohibited if it is used for on legitimate reasons, such as ensuring safety or enabling the organisation or planning of work. However, the system chosen must be proportionate to the aim pursued and the employees must be informed in advance

https://www.edoeb.admin.ch/edoeb/en/home/datenschutz/arbeit_...

Re: I will NEVER add such a privacy breaking a**hole feature

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If you can't tell that your employees are actually doing work without one of these tools then what are you paying them for? What computer job has no externally visible sign of work being done except "looks busy?"

All software development? You can work at 25% pace and get away with it at most places. Sandbag, attend lots of meetings, be "blocked" by things often, etc. It's not about literally producing nothing, it's about working from 11-2 (or whatever, depends on what these people try to get away with)
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